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Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

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> a key assumption necessary in actually delivering value turned out to be pretty much false (basically we saw almost no adoption amongst users). I'm leaning out on a limb here, but if this means what I think it means, you have developed some app that tradeshow visitors are asked to install to reap some benefits that don't interest them. If that's kind of what you are doing, pull the plug now. People don't use that k…

you're very close and >People don't use that kind of thing. is exactly one of the key hypotheses that needed validation/falsification. what we are facing now is whether we really falsified it given poor marketing/education on the part of the organizer.

1.) Selling to a customer is hard.

2.) Selling to a customer that must then sell your product to its customer is at least an order of magnitude harder, and may be one of the hardest tricks for a new business to pull-off successfully.

Simply put, you don't have the branding to convert the end customer nor the control over that second sales process. Compounding this is that your product is not a priority for your direct customer and is not mission-critical to them in addressing their actual priorities. Thus, they will not engage nearly the focus required to address item 1 above in selling your product to its customers (i.e. end-users).

This last point can't be stressed enough. As entrepreneurs, our products are our focus and we tend to project that priority onto others.

The only way this model will work is if:

a.) The product is extraordinarily compelling/valuable to the end user in the same sense as would form the basis for building any viable business

AND

b.) The product is easy for your customer to sell to the end user in a frictionless manner (easy to communicate, requires no onboarding or support from your customer, etc.)

AND EITHER:

c.) Your product were mission-critical to your direct customer (preferred)

OR

d.) There was an immediate value to be had for your customer from introducing the product to the end user (monetization, good will, etc)

It seems that you have achieved only b (perhaps) and d in this equation, and then only to varying degrees. If you cannot pivot to solving the other variables then you should shut it down now.

Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

#124

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Your attitude isn’t helpful or welcome here.

We all struggle with complex decisions from time to time; we all make mistakes, and most of us are far less perfect than we’d perhaps like to admit. Seeking advice from a peer group is a good step towards learning how to avoid the mistakes in the future.

“You’re an idiot and so is everyone you know” is not advice.

Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

#125
if you have still 100K and if you really believe in your product (or at least if you think market needs something similar to what you are offering), take a risk and outsource technical part of product, do sales by yourself, focus on sales, marketing.

Contact me if you wish to find remote outsource team for ~6k/month, this will give you another 1 year of development time. email: {myusername} at google's email service

Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

#126
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Hi, I had a startup fail after we (I had 1 co-founder) invested ~4 years into it. Some thoughts: A startup failing is not a rational thing. At this time emotions (regret, fear, stress, depression) take over, it's a tough time to handle. If it's tough for you, take comfort in knowing that it's tough for everyone. When I was going through this, I couldn't handle the stress, so it spilled over into my personal life, and…

I second what you said here. I worked as a CTO of a start up which was primarily driven by ego and lies of the CEO. He didn't want to go a rational way and constantly duped (yes duped) investors.

I took a long time to exit the startup. Reason? Because I was not able to think through it, because when you are so much into something you can't think without it affecting your thoughts. But slowly and steadily I was able to judge the situation by thinking practically (keep thinking, many be write your points, that helps). So for me, best thing was to get out we that company was not going anywhere, may be not the same for you. After four months I joined a very successful bootstrapped startup in tech role. It is an individual contributor role. But I am learning, and preparing for my next feat. Life goes on.

Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

#127

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When did this community get so thoughtlessly cruel? What value does sadism have for you for them or even for the market? Shame on you.

Cruel? What about the other people with an actual useful project who didn't get a chance to raise money because OP was distracting the same investors with a silly idea.

OP used their pitch presentation skills to divert opportunities away from other actual hard working people who might have used the money to do something useful for society.

Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

#128

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When did this community get so thoughtlessly cruel? What value does sadism have for you for them or even for the market? Shame on you.

The community isn't "thoughtlessly cruel" as evidenced by the immediate downvotes and comments not agreeing with parent. It is unwise to judge a whole community based on a random comment from an anonymous actor with no reputation whatsoever.

Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

#129

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Your attitude isn’t helpful or welcome here. We all struggle with complex decisions from time to time; we all make mistakes, and most of us are far less perfect than we’d perhaps like to admit. Seeking advice from a peer group is a good step towards learning how to avoid the mistakes in the future. “You’re an idiot and so is everyone you know” is not advice.

It is advice. It means "You've had your shot, you failed, now let someone else have a go."

Some people make it sound like raising investment is as trivial as buying a burger from Macdonald's.

I haven't been to America yet but it sounds hard to believe.

Re: Ask HN: My startup has basically failed. What now?

#130
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>> the main investors/advisors (from the 220k friends/family/fools round) pretty much feel like it's time to pull the plug Given your statement above, there's really no question beyond this point. You promised riches and success to family and friends and it is not currently looking like you will do that, and their message is "stop please before its all gone". Do so. If you still have money and it is from family and f…

Yeah, the "fools" line is an indicator that you are burned out and have lost your belief in the mission. You'd be lying to yourself and others if you continued.

That's a pretty common expression and probably doesn't indicate anything additional about OP's mindset. https://www.forbes.com/sites/richwinley/2015/08/21/friends-f...
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