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Post by JoshCole »

wpietri wrote: post #298
JoshCole wrote: post #294

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Dating has multiple different meanings in English. Not only do I know this, but you're attempt to correct me is a re-statement of what I said in my own post: dating can refer to the process of finding someone to begin dating. Online dating can be a long torturous experience. That is why people are saying they want to skip it and do the parts that are enjoyable. Some because it was long and people don't have time for…

Dating can be a long, difficult experience, on line or off. So the online part is irrelevant here except that it makes fraud possible. I understand that humans in general are lazy, and normally I am fine with that. But a) being lazy is different than not having time, b) if you don't have time to date, you also don't have time for a relationship, and c) you can't just skip the early parts of building a relationship. T…

Dating offline can be one of the most frightening euphoric experiences a person will ever have even if the result of an attempted approach is rejection. I remember asking a girl out for the first time. It was nothing like swiping right a few hundreds times and then sending a message to someone who swiped back only to never receive a response. I felt so good that it scared me even hours later when I was no longer feeling the euphoria. There are huge differences between dating online and offline. Real differences that really matter.

It isn't true that online dating isn't relevant to whether a person can have time in their life for online dating.

When people talk about not having time for something, they are speaking in a metaphorical sense about the value of their time. Truly, most people have time to count to a million, but most people don't have time to count to a million.

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Post by dang »

eigenstuff wrote: post #239
tajen wrote: post #90

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No, it’s rather devastating for female sanity. It gives them the illusion of choice, and many women build false expectations, feeling that they could settle with any of those Don Juans, which is false. When they hit the wall at 30, they start noticing that the top 10% men keep dating the younger ones, and they’ll never be able to settle with a Perfect Man anymore. Enters depression and weight gain and they settle wit…

I get the impression you've never actually spoken to a woman in your life.

It was a bad comment for HN, but please don't reply to a bad comment by breaking the site rules yourself. That just makes this place even worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by JoshCole »

wpietri wrote: post #213
laurieg wrote: post #55

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"I don't have time to do x" is almost always code for "I have other things that I want to do more than x" So it sounds like these people would make time to go on dates, or have a romantic partner, but they find online dating tedious so they pay to have someone do it for them.

I definitely agree the surface excuse is a lie. But in this case, I think it's insane. It reduces to, "I don't want to spend getting to know a person I might spend the rest of my life with, so I'm going to jump right to paying somebody to lie to them." It's contradictory, at least for a real relationship. I think what it really means is, "I want a woman in the same way I want a new car: as enjoyable, status-enhancing…

It's not a lie. You're just distorting the idiom.

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Post by xor1 »

alexashka wrote: post #66
laurieg wrote: post #2

It is very informative to make a an online dating profile of the opposite gender. I'm a man, but when I made an account on tinder with a female friend's pictures I was blown away by just how radically different the experience was. Almost every person would match with me. Everyone would message me straight away. If I didn't reply most would message again in a few hours. A few would get very angry/upset that I didn't r…

Real stroke of genius would be making prostitution legal, and family a big deal. It'd solve men's natural urges, and women's constant insecurity that they're going to be abandoned, once they get wrinkles. It'd remove so much undisclosed resentment and tension within families and society. It'd free up people involved in billions upon billions of dollars worth of industry, to do something useful, instead of preying on…

I don't understand where the "men only want sex" thing comes from. I think most men want companionship. I know I do.

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Post by skate22 »

Double_a_92 wrote: post #145
skate22 wrote: post #130

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I used tinder in college and it worked pretty well for me (male). I would swipe right 100%, and get 3-10 matches per day. Out of all of the matches, maybe 5% would message me. That would be the first time i even looked at the profile, and would decide to go for it or not. Out of that 5% i might actually go on a date with 1% of that group. It wasnt great, but wasnt terrible either.

That's 1 potential date per year.

I think it was 6 during my undergrad, 2 of which ended up in relationships, one of which lasted for 2 years. If i was just looking for a hookup it would have been more, but those % were based off people i thought i would honestly be compatable with. I blew off a lot of people looking for hookups

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Post by CiPHPerCoder »

maroonblazer wrote: post #236
CiPHPerCoder wrote: post #227

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> That's an interesting definition of "trying harder". See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16898821 > I think the person employing that strategy would quickly find that it doesn't work as well as some other ways of trying harder. You'd think, but in practice, not always. Aren't humans amazing? I think if we're being prescriptive, I think working towards a culture where all parties involved do both choosing…

The population imbalance in China/India is a separate issue. >Aren't humans amazing? I wasn't suggesting it's not tried. Simply that it's unlikely to be successful and thus will find fewer adherents. >working towards a culture where all parties involved do both choosing and trying This happens already. Women pursue men all the time, they just don't have to expend as much energy as men do.

> The population imbalance in China/India is a separate issue.

The observable consequences of this imbalance offers insight into human nature. The article and comments in that thread delve far into them.

It's worth reading.

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Post by Retric »

hackits wrote: post #283
Retric wrote: post #206

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The biggest player I know is/was short and overweight. He however was always looking, fairly charming, and had reasonable expectations.

When the shirt comes off that dad bob isn't going to impress anyone also its bloody unhealthy and put you a serious risk of CHD and diabetes. Yes you can get women with being short and overweight, just you have to ask yourself the type of women and the expectations of women that you pull in are.

~25% body fat is that grey area before obesity where there are minimal health impacts especially when short due to low BMI, and plenty of women may find you attractive with the shirt on. It's approachable in a way that 15% body fat percentage tends to be off putting.

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Post by tropo »

lumberjack wrote: post #132
alexashka wrote: post #66

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Real stroke of genius would be making prostitution legal, and family a big deal. It'd solve men's natural urges, and women's constant insecurity that they're going to be abandoned, once they get wrinkles. It'd remove so much undisclosed resentment and tension within families and society. It'd free up people involved in billions upon billions of dollars worth of industry, to do something useful, instead of preying on…

The "natural urge" is to procreate, not to simply have sex.

It will be, because birth control will affect the evolution of our mental traits. Given the high effectiveness of birth control, this evolution is likely to be rapid.

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Post by tim333 »

baron816 wrote: post #73
aphextron wrote: post #44

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I worked for $large_dating_site for a number of years. The real genius of Tinder was giving women the power. We came to the same realization as well: that no matter how bad you make the user experience for men, they will use the app endlessly if real women are there. Online dating business models are exclusively based around enticing men with sex, and giving women the power to choose precisely who they want.

What I’ve long wondered is how women react in the real world now that they have all the power on dating apps. Why would they try to find a date in any other way? There were a few articles that came out a few years ago arguing that, no, dating apps were terrible for women because it makes men even more noncommittal with such easy access to dates. My hypothesis was that the women they interviewed for those pieces were…

>a few articles

Tinder and the Dawn of the “Dating Apocalypse” https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/tinder-hook-up-cu...

I think is noted literature in that field

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Post by boojing »

pps43 wrote: post #270
logfromblammo wrote: post #261

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I recall seeing in the movie A Beautiful Mind a scene where a group of colluding men improved their dating outcomes by instituting and honoring one rule: "nobody goes for the best one". Nash demonstrated his game theory concept, and it worked the exposition into the screenplay without going too deeply into the math. So females should probably collude to enforce dating-monogamy, to encourage males to clearly commit or…

The system you envision is Gale–Shapley algorithm for solving the stable marriage problem, but with roles reversed.

A modified version of the algorithm is used in the US for matching graduating medical students with hospital positions. It's interesting topic ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Match_Day_(medicine) )
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