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A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by tobeportable »

yoodenvranx wrote: post #49
panarky wrote: post #31

When the display goes to sleep due to lack of input or whatever, you have to drag upwards with your mouse to unlock the screen. Like some common dirty frickin' smart phone. Yes! Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes the window. FOR GODS SAKE WHY. Double yes!

> Dragging a window to the top of the screen maximizes the window. FOR GODS SAKE WHY. I use this all the time when working with several monitors. Just press Alt, click somewhere onto a window, move this window to a different monitor, smash window to the top of the screen. Bam, instant monitor-switching of full-screen windows. (And yes, usually I use keyboard shortcuts for this but when the hand is already on the mous…

Alt + double click can also toggle maximize the window under the cursor.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by Too »

LarryPage wrote: post #266
da_chicken wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but for the past 25 years or so, the conventional way to wake up a desktop computer whose monitor has gone to sleep was a nonspecific mouse wiggle or keyboard press. Why change that? Like how big of a deal was accidentally waking up your monitor? What problem are we fixing? What's our usability goal here? Is this requirement discoverable to the user or not?

So instead of just typing your password, you prefer to wiggle your mouse first, and then start typing your password?

Yes. Because then I know I'm actually typing into the password box and not the username box which will be shown in plaintext once the monitor wakes up.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by [deleted] »

scj wrote: post #44
billfruit wrote: post #19

Why doesn't Ubuntu (and many other distributions) change to a rolling release model. Having switched to Arch, though admittedly the installation process is much more elaborate than of Ubuntu, once you customise it to one's preference, it is much more convenient to keep upgrading individual packages as they are evolving.

Last time I tried Arch (about a decade ago), I gave a command to update packages. In the update, my NVIDIA card was moved to be supported by "nvidia-legacy" rather than "nvidia"... Of course, I didn't have legacy drivers installed, so the driver failed pretty badly (it was assigned to NVIDIA in my xorg conf). X wouldn't load, and because several aspects of X changed in the update, I had to spend a few hours figuring…

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Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by slazaro »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #246
tedge wrote: post #229

Ubuntu 18.04 is the first release to include my app, PikoPixel (pixel-art editor), in its repository (universe): https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gnustep/pikopixel.app I had to tweak PP's packaging to get it to appear in the Ubuntu Software app, so I can provide a bit of info about this part of the article: My assumption for now is that the Ubuntu Software application only shows updates for packages that were insta…

If only we lived in a world where developers could just distribute their application binaries to the end user without having to rely on a storefront.

You know you can still do that in Linux, right? The package managers are just a convenience.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by tomtheelder »

k_bx wrote: post #139
gnufied wrote: post #137

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I am running gnome-shell on 3 desktops and my current session is running for days and memory usage is stable around 230MB. The leak as discussed in the bug comes from certain extensions. I do not think it qualifies as leaks as "hell".

If you just press "Super" multiple times does RAM usage go up? Was quite reproducible for me last time I've checked.

Just tried this on my machine and it caused no increase in RAM usage. Hit it ~100 times.

Edit: Actually it is increasing memory usage, but on the order of like 1MB per 5 key presses. That would probably become an issue on a long enough timescale.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by amygdyl »

qznc wrote: post #74
sametmax wrote: post #64

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I love those features so much. Dragging the window near a side of the screen make it fills half of it too.

I learned that Windows has another nice variation on this: When you vertically resize (not drag!) a window to the top, it vertically maximizes the window. On Linux I configure a double click on the top bar to do this. I like to vertically maximize my terminals.

Alt-TAB thru to the window you want[0]

WindowsKey-ARROW aligns top to bottom fully, or if left and right, to the side, half screen (leaving the alt tab reduced windows still selectable, so I frequently switch to the mouse then, which is fluid for next seeking to insert my cursor to edit)) and I think Page Up maximises full screen but again not recently used this option.

Yes, Windows has had really very worthwhile UI shortcuts for a long time, since 7 definitely, I skipped XP mostly, W2K got just long enough support on contract I never saw SP1 or 2 even .

[0] I think you can go straight to the window you want by hitting the number of the window in order but I've never used this as too many windows and I'm in a phone now, but this could be cute if you're strict about your desktop layout and I'm a rare one who isn't so particular, a laxity learned from a spell in front line help desk

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by mpartel »

wilsonnb wrote: post #265
mpartel wrote: post #264

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Curated stores are fine and can indeed improve quality, but it'll be a tremendously sad day when they'll be mandated by law. Adding a 30% tax and central control on all software just because we believe users can't be taught to not install random crap is a very bleak outlook indeed. Freedom is sometimes messy, but almost always worth it.

I do not support mandating those things by law. I am content with letting the Linux people do their thing while I do my thing. The only people I've only thought wanted to outlaw something are the most extreme Linux/GNU zealots who want to make it illegal for a company to lock down a computer even if it improves the user experience. It stands to reason that such zealots exist on the other side of the argument as well,…

I didn't believe you would, but I fear it's a likely outcome if all that 99% of people ever use is a locked down system. Then misguided (or bribed) lawmakers will almost certainly start getting ideas about banning unlimited computers because "they're only used by hackers and pirates" or "because security" or something.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by jpetso »

sametmax wrote: post #102
copperx wrote: post #84

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Isn't your number of computers insane? The right number of computers for most people is exactly one.

My girlfriends has 3 (2 laptops, one tablet) and one phone, and she isn't even a geek. But let's be real, people installing arch don't have "one computer". Not the ones around me anyway.

I'd like to disprove that statement with myself as a counterexample. One laptop exactly, and also PS3+4 but I don't think that counts as "computer" in this context.

Yes, sometimes it would be nice to have another machine or a monitor around. Or a desk that's not a dining table, even. Oh well! Anyway, Arch works just great for this kind of use case.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by LarryPage »

Too wrote: post #272
LarryPage wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So instead of just typing your password, you prefer to wiggle your mouse first, and then start typing your password?

Yes. Because then I know I'm actually typing into the password box and not the username box which will be shown in plaintext once the monitor wakes up.

Then press enter, and then type in your password.

Re: A Lengthy, Pedantic Review of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver)

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Post by cabalamat »

Too wrote: post #270
cabalamat wrote: post #197

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> I use this all the time when working with several monitors. Just press Alt, click somewhere onto a window, move this window to a different monitor, smash window to the top of the screen. Bam, instant monitor-switching of full-screen windows. 1. What's wrong with the maximise button? It wasn't broken, it didn't need fixing. 2. What if you want the window at the top of the screen without being maximised?

Maximize maximizes onto the current screen. I might want it maximized on another screen. The maximize button is also super tiny and harder to hit compared to the title bar. I also think that in those rare cases you actually want to put a window at the top without maximizing it you are better off with a tiling window manager with keyboard shortcuts. In Windows you can quickly get top left quarter with win+left, win+up…

> I might want it maximized on another screen.

Then move it to that screen first.

> The maximize button is also super tiny and harder to hit compared to the title bar.

Then the button needs to be bigger.

> I also think that in those rare cases you actually want to put a window at the top without maximizing it you are better off with a tiling window manager with keyboard shortcuts.

That may be true for you; it isn't for me.

I find keyboard shortcuts hard to remember and often inadvertantly press keys (don't know which one I've pressed) with shortcuts which do things I don't like.

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