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I have lost confidence in the western university system. Too much high exorbitant fees, with no future prospects but debt, so I have taken it myself to learn online via open courses.
I presume that the "open courses" that you are consuming online are produced by the western university system?
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> but some people will find it very uncomfortable And are they being reasonable or not? I know people who find it very uncomfortable to leave their house. I know people who find it very uncomfortable to talk to someone they don't know. I personally find any kind of sales and advertising incredibly uncomfortable. Almost everyone finds it very uncomfortable when they have their views challenged. Just because something…
What exactly do you think it mean for someone's experience of discomfort to be "unreasonable"? And why do you think that justifies taking actions that we know are likely to cause someone else discomfort? I can't say I find your examples particularly justifying. I think we should leave agoraphobic introverts alone if that's what they want. I think sales and advertising are obnoxious and society would be better without…
Way outside of the norm. I'm not quite sure what you are getting at?
> And why do you think that justifies taking actions that we know are likely to cause someone else discomfort?
1. Is causing discomfort immoral? Sometimes but it can also be a good thing.
2. What makes you think it's likely to cause discomfort? It's a tiny minority who are truly bothered.
The reason guys will ask multiple times is because it works - Millions of happy relationships have started after an initial rejection.
3. Why do you only consider one persons discomfort?
Not being able to find a life partner is incredibly discomforting.
What about the discomfort faced by the many many women who like being chased?
It would be nice to see some STEM-affirmative universities without any x-studies leaching. Professional complainer is a viable career path these days and it starts at uni.
Ugh, that's dystopian. There's bullshit on both sides of the university (stem and humanities). They're symbiotic and they need each other and the world desperately needs more people skilled in both. Stephen Hawking doesn't become Stephen Hawking without an awareness and understanding of the humanities.
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>People literally copying from Wikipedia or copy and pasting from papers to make their own work. // My lad is just in UK high-school but I'm surprised at how homework is set with no provision of resources and no mention of plagiarism or need to cite sources. The kids are basically expected to find their own sources, which is ridiculous - making them trust whatever Google gives them. Once they've been inculcated into…
Funnily enough, this kinda matches how most people do their jobs now. "Just google it" is the solution to many problems in business. It's probably not the best long term strategy, but then again, neither is the stock market...
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I've read many anecdotal stories like this of students complaining that the quality of their education is suffering due to a large portion of the class being utterly not qualified to be there, dragging everyone else down. I think it also has interesting potential long term implications for relative national competitiveness if you think about it regardless of whether that is a goal or not.
> complaining that the quality of their education is suffering due to a large portion of the class being utterly not qualified to be there, dragging everyone else down I'm not sure why those students are complaining... The wealthy foreign students aren't participating in class much, which effectively makes the class size smaller. They're also subsidizing the degrees of all the Americans. And a lot of them end up goin…
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What exactly do you think it mean for someone's experience of discomfort to be "unreasonable"? And why do you think that justifies taking actions that we know are likely to cause someone else discomfort? I can't say I find your examples particularly justifying. I think we should leave agoraphobic introverts alone if that's what they want. I think sales and advertising are obnoxious and society would be better without…
> What exactly do you think it mean for someone's experience of discomfort to be "unreasonable"? Way outside of the norm. I'm not quite sure what you are getting at? > And why do you think that justifies taking actions that we know are likely to cause someone else discomfort? 1. Is causing discomfort immoral? Sometimes but it can also be a good thing. 2. What makes you think it's likely to cause discomfort? It's a ti…
>It's a tiny minority who are truly bothered.
I don't think women feeling harassed by men's advances is remotely "outside the norm", or a "tiny minority". It's very common, which is exactly the problem.
>What about the discomfort faced by the many many women who like being chased?
If people like this kind of courtship, they should be willing to communicate that, rather than making it impossible for anyone to say "no" just so they can get their kicks. If there's no safeword for this "chasing" it shouldn't be considered consensual.
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Honestly that's just kind of cute. Good private schools in the US regularly cost over $40,000 per year.
I'm talking about an average school for ages 4-11. But this is not a competition about who has the most expensive schools. I'd rather live in a country where education is free.
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"Don't be a jerk" doesn't seem draconian to me. The people I see whining about their speech having consequences (ie, Milo) are usually aiming to offend. They aren't running into obscure codes, they're being jerks for fun and profit.
> "Don't be a jerk" doesn't seem draconian to me. And who gets to decide what is acceptable? My college had an atheist club that hung up a banner saying "Religion is for the feeble minded" - that's offensive to billions of people. Can we shut them down and boot them off campus? My college also had communist clubs with communist slogans - many of my extended family were killed by communists so that's obviously offensi…
Twitter and Reddit and the like are public platforms that belong to a private entity. So it's private property and the people who own it can curate or be selective if they choose.
All that said, I'm no fan of "no-platforming", but it's not as prominent as you might think, at least on the public college level. I went to a college where random fire and brimstone preachers would stand in front of the library, bang on buckets and call women "whores" as they passed by. Nobody invited them, they just wanted an audience. And though I hated those guys, I understand their right to do that (with a permit) and to say whatever. Likewise, it was my right to laugh in his face, call him an asshole. Because he was being a jerk.
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> What exactly do you think it mean for someone's experience of discomfort to be "unreasonable"? Way outside of the norm. I'm not quite sure what you are getting at? > And why do you think that justifies taking actions that we know are likely to cause someone else discomfort? 1. Is causing discomfort immoral? Sometimes but it can also be a good thing. 2. What makes you think it's likely to cause discomfort? It's a ti…
>Way outside of the norm. >It's a tiny minority who are truly bothered. I don't think women feeling harassed by men's advances is remotely "outside the norm", or a "tiny minority". It's very common, which is exactly the problem. >What about the discomfort faced by the many many women who like being chased? If people like this kind of courtship, they should be willing to communicate that, rather than making it impossi…
By college students on campus?
That's not at all the impression I get from my daughter or her friends who finished college recently.
Her opinion is the men are way too timid.
> If people like this kind of courtship, they should be willing to communicate that
Why? Why isn't it up to the minority of people who have a problem to communicate clearly?
> impossible for anyone to say "no" just so they can get their kicks.
It doesn't make it impossible to say no. What are you talking about?
What it means is a women might have to say no a couple of times over time or make it clear they have no interest at all.
I've asked a friend to meet up for coffee 3x this fortnight and he has said no each time. Should I never ask him again to get coffee?
If I keep asking him does that mean he can't say no?