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How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Energy Mainstream

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I've meant was mining on the wind mills themselves. So there would be no need of passing through the grid.

I heard that crypto mining hardware has to have decent-ish (80-90%) uptime to be profitable. That would make it infeasible to have it on standby waiting for excess energy on the grid.

After the windmill is paid off, the mining is then practically ( some maintenance will be needed ) for free.

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post #15

The interesting question is what effect clean energy has to the usage of hydrocarbons. Will it bring reduce global demand or just reduce the price of energy. The good news is: CO2 emission intensity is going down globally and emissions per capita in US, China and EU28 are going down. The bad news are: Emissions per capita are still going up globally, and hydrocarbon usage and CO2 emissions are breaking records year a…

This is why the only way to deal with climate change is countries with carbon reserves deciding to leave it in the ground.

If they don't, there is so much demand for the stuff (burning it is so incredibly useful) that it'll all be burned.

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post #15

The interesting question is what effect clean energy has to the usage of hydrocarbons. Will it bring reduce global demand or just reduce the price of energy. The good news is: CO2 emission intensity is going down globally and emissions per capita in US, China and EU28 are going down. The bad news are: Emissions per capita are still going up globally, and hydrocarbon usage and CO2 emissions are breaking records year a…

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As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing. E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so m…

Isn't this where pumped storage and other forms of storage come into play? Here in Scotland we routinely pump water back up into our lochs in order to store it for future use. There's also various news articles reporting on German mines beginning to be used as pumped storage sites, with a reservoir on the surface, and water dropping into the mines below when there's sudden demand. This is a good problem to have, thou…

In Ireland there have been studies using sea-facing valleys to store pumped sea-water. There are an order of magnitude more of these (left-over from the last ice-age) than river valleys for pumped hydro storage. The spirit of ireland group looked at them. When we really need the stored energy, this plan will get dug up again. Reference: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/02/massive-energy-storag...

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not about building up capacity alone: you want to take power off the grid at negative energy price times.

You are taking power off the grid: The power otherwise produced by the hydro plant. Of course with a lower reservoir, you can go into negative territory instead of "just" taking the plant down to 0.

No, you need to consume what other methods, e.g. wind, are producing when there isn't the demand to use it.

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#48
post #31

The future of mankind lies with nuclear power. I'm distressed by it not receiving as much attention as windmills.

clean, safe, and too cheap to meter, amirite?

three words, last one's shima.

oh, look at the time, it's 2018 already..

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As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing. E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so m…

Can you explain why you think these negative prices are a bad thing?

I think they're an efficient use of market based tools to ensure that the group who can reduce the input to the grid does so, and to incentivize electricity production that can meet the flexible demands of the grid (e.g. slow ramping coal would be penalised over fast ramping gas without any regulation needing to specifically target the coal and the coal plant can do anything it wants to improve this, e.g. fit batteries, since no technology is mandated.

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