How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Energy Mainstream
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Re: How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Energy Mainstream
#2As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing.
E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so much renewable energy from intermittent sources like wind and solar you can handle.
[0]: https://blog.energybrainpool.com/bereits-103-mal-in-2017-neg...
Re: How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Energy Mainstream
#3As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing. E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so m…
This sounds like an opportunity for collaboration between crypto miners and the wind people.
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#4As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing. E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so m…
As for storage, shouldn't there be plenty of hydroelectric dams that could run "backwards"? Or is there an interconnection issue you mention?
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#5As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing. E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so m…
As for storage, shouldn't there be plenty of hydroelectric dams that could run "backwards"? Or is there an interconnection issue you mention?
For a hydroelectric dam to be able to "run backwards", it needs a lower reservoir. Many dams have only an upper reservoir.
Re: How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Energy Mainstream
#6Related story on Bloomberg this morning:
How to Buy a Wind Farm
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-23/the-puert...
Re: How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Energy Mainstream
#7Wind turbines, they are not milling anything. One would have hoped that a paper like NYT would something as basic as that right.
Re: How Windmills as Wide as Jumbo Jets Are Making Clean Energy Mainstream
#8As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing. E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so m…
Isn't this where pumped storage and other forms of storage come into play? Here in Scotland we routinely pump water back up into our lochs in order to store it for future use.
There's also various news articles reporting on German mines beginning to be used as pumped storage sites, with a reservoir on the surface, and water dropping into the mines below when there's sudden demand.
This is a good problem to have, though.
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#9I think storage should be decentralized with towns/cities working to store locally and forward as required.
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#10As the production costs with windpower decrease due to the technological progress, the question of grid storage and grid interconnection becomes more pressing. E.g. in Germany, they frequently have days of negative energy prices, where producers need to pay to feed energy into the greed because of overproduction of energy on windy/sunny days [0](in German). Without storage and grid interconnection, there is only so m…
This sounds like an opportunity for collaboration between crypto miners and the wind people.
And maybe it can be mediated by fungible electricity transmitted over a grid of conductive wires. Or an electricity market.