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Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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Re: Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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vitro wrote: post #45

For anybody interested in experimenting I recommend reading about LSD microdosing as an alternative to high doses that make you trip. Look for James Fadiman's research.

"Research". Fadiman is a quack, there is no research in to "sub-perceptual" dosing. It's the homeopathy of psychedelics. See https://www.gwern.net/LSD-microdosing#fadiman-comments

The research actually being done is in "perceptual" low dose and high dose psilocybin/MDMA and so on, where are the results so far are promising.

Re: Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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Post by adamsea »

bsenftner wrote: post #33
srge wrote: post #21

Psychedelics (LSD, shrooms) made me a better person. I don’t know anyone who became less caring, less respectfull, more violent or more greedy after doing those drugs. I would argue that psychedelics make you more human, in the good sense of the word.

I know of one guy, a brilliant man, who after a period of a month taking shrooms practically every day had a personality shift that is easiest described as "like Rick" from "Rick & Morty" - he became convinced he was the smartest man in the universe, dangerously smart and people would kill him if they knew how incredibly smart he was. That attitude stayed with him, and destroyed him; about a decade later he died due…

Sounds like a mental illness.

Re: Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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freeloop10 wrote: post #47
12bytes wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're painting "drugs" with a broad brush psychedelics are not like cocaine, despite what the 'gubbmunt' would like you to believe - rather they are like a window into your 'self' - if you think of psychedelics in terms of frequency, you might better understand the tremendous potential they hold with regard to a laundry list of ailments, including depression, PTSD, etc.

Your comment doesn't address what he wrote. The answer to anything as far as the modern consumer is concerned seems to always be "Buy more stuff!" In this case, what's being pedaled is the cure to consumerism. And the irony that the proposed solution is to buy yet another product seems lost on most people here. Enough is enough. I agree with the original poster. Our solutions to every problem shouldn't be to buy yet…

I downvoted you because psychedelic culture is about as anti-consumerist as it gets, and it takes a pretty incredible reversal to try and paint it as a product being pushed for people to buy.

Re: Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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Post by adamsea »

Overtonwindow wrote: post #43

I’ve never used them, but everyone I’ve met who has, has spoken along similar lines that dropping acid opens up another part of your mind. So I think if it does unlock another part of your mind, then absolutely it could make you a better person. “Doing LSD was one of the two or three most important things I have done in my life." -Steve Jobs

Based on the Walter Isaacson bio, acid didn’t seem to make Jobs a better person, in terms of treating other people well, regardless of whatever else he got from it.

Re: Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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HIPisTheAnswer wrote: post #55

> There is a strong claim here that has never been tested: can psychedelics make you a better person? Never been tested !? Is this person on drugs or something !? Ahahahaha! But seriously, homo sapiens quite obviously happened from a collision of apes with psychedelics (most probably psilocybin mushrooms)... So without psychedelics there would never have been any people! Terrence McKenna very thoroughly explained thi…

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Re: Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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Post by freeloop10 »

tree_of_item wrote: post #63
freeloop10 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment doesn't address what he wrote. The answer to anything as far as the modern consumer is concerned seems to always be "Buy more stuff!" In this case, what's being pedaled is the cure to consumerism. And the irony that the proposed solution is to buy yet another product seems lost on most people here. Enough is enough. I agree with the original poster. Our solutions to every problem shouldn't be to buy yet…

I downvoted you because psychedelic culture is about as anti-consumerist as it gets, and it takes a pretty incredible reversal to try and paint it as a product being pushed for people to buy.

I don't understand psychedelic culture, admittedly, but I can't wrap my head around why you think it's anti consumerist. Drugs are being bought and consumed, right? Isn't that the core of the culture? "Do this one thing, that costs money, to improve your life." I don't see the fundamental difference between that and purchasing any other product.

Thanks for saying why you downvoted, anyway.

Re: Can psychedelics make you a better person?

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Post by vitro »

tree_of_item wrote: post #61
vitro wrote: post #45

For anybody interested in experimenting I recommend reading about LSD microdosing as an alternative to high doses that make you trip. Look for James Fadiman's research.

"Research". Fadiman is a quack, there is no research in to "sub-perceptual" dosing. It's the homeopathy of psychedelics. See https://www.gwern.net/LSD-microdosing#fadiman-comments The research actually being done is in "perceptual" low dose and high dose psilocybin/MDMA and so on, where are the results so far are promising.

"Research" because it cannot be done officially as LSD is illegal, so he relies on subjective reports of people who microdose, which cannot be precise and standardized, of course. Have you tried it? What I can recommend to you is to go and try it yourself, then tell me if it is homeopathy. Nothing can replace your own experience.

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Post by andrei_says_ »

HIPisTheAnswer wrote: post #55

> There is a strong claim here that has never been tested: can psychedelics make you a better person? Never been tested !? Is this person on drugs or something !? Ahahahaha! But seriously, homo sapiens quite obviously happened from a collision of apes with psychedelics (most probably psilocybin mushrooms)... So without psychedelics there would never have been any people! Terrence McKenna very thoroughly explained thi…

This is a very interesting take on opium. Are there sources on long-term use with regulated dosage you can point to?

Doesn’t the tolerance increase with regular use? Or is this managed by takin brakes on a regular basis? In which case what about withdrawal?

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