California Opens Investigation into Tesla Workplace Conditions

Post by afterburner » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 8:21 PM UTC

soheil wrote: post #43

ucaetano wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation: "Things in the universe happen for no greater reason at all, they just happen according to a small and simple set of laws that describe the behavior of matter-energy and space-time" vs. "There's a being, which is conscious, all-knowing and all-powerful, sitting somewhere, or actually nowhere, that uses its power to set things in motion or not, depending on its mood, and how it likes some people, but by n…

Using longer sentences and adding arbitrary words does not make an explanation more complex. I was simply pointing out that simplest explanation may not always be the most accurate.

Post by watwut » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 8:22 PM UTC

api wrote: post #39

ucaetano wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Translation: "Things in the universe happen for no greater reason at all, they just happen according to a small and simple set of laws that describe the behavior of matter-energy and space-time" vs. "There's a being, which is conscious, all-knowing and all-powerful, sitting somewhere, or actually nowhere, that uses its power to set things in motion or not, depending on its mood, and how it likes some people, but by n…

You've shown that it is possible to shorten or lengthen sentences by picking less or more applicable or "conceptually dense" words. Example: "the wall is black" vs "the wall absorbs a significant fraction of the visible light spectrum." God in some form is indeed a simpler and more straightforward concept than evolution, especially when you consider the whole of evolutionary theory beyond Darwin. It's a very deep and…

Post by watwut » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 8:24 PM UTC

jonny_eh wrote: post #31

soheil wrote: post #27

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"Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows. There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning…

Are you trying to point out that Occam's Razor is flawed? Occam's Razor would tell you that evolution (which has over a century of evidence) is more likely than a designer god (which is lacking in evidence).

Post by Diederich » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 8:24 PM UTC

ebikelaw wrote: post #46

mc32 wrote: post #12

Wonder if Alabama will see the opportunity this might represent for them. High tech and high relative pay.

Alabama produces a million cars a year, in factories that are actually high-tech unlike Tesla’s. You think they are clamoring to bring in an automaker struggling to produce a handful of cars with double the industry injury rate?

Post by Spooky23 » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 8:27 PM UTC

StudentStuff wrote: post #51

sf_rob wrote: post #11

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Musk in an interview last week said as much (re: automation). He claims that the Model 3 line was over-automated so now they're tearing out sections for rework while doing more with the labor on hand. (Although they're about to also install new sections from their German automation subsidiary so it goes both ways).

The whole play with making their own tooling seems ill conceived at Tesla's small scale, and it has definitely set the Model 3's production back quite a bit.