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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #31

We're going from cold war to all-in. Not just a privacy question. Reddit nags me every time I hit the front page, even returning from a story, asking me to log in. For most sites I need to create ublock filters to prevent pop-ups with useless "we use cookies", subscription requests, ads or social media bars that fills half the screen, etc. etc. etc. Every newspaper I read has decided that autostarting video and strea…

"We use cookies on this site! Read our Cookie-policy mambo jumbo here! "

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#132
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Firefox has tracking protection. It's a pretty effective ad blocker for me.

That's absolutely wrong! Tracking protection just results in dumber ads. But they still clutter your pages and waste your bandwidth.

That tracking protection is a good enough ad blocker for me is absolutely wrong? You do realize that tracking protection actually blocks ads, don't you?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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This doesn't work for me. I have a "personal" container that I use for my Google/PayPal login, and sites that I use Google oauth with, same for a "work" container. If each site used it's own container, I couldn't sign in with Google without signing in multiple times (let alone the mess of signing out old sessions, which I do once in a while).

Google logins still work, this is a different kind of container from the Firefox container tabs. I use this feature with container tabs and it's fine. There are so far one or two sites I've come across that this breaks, neither of them anything I care about.

For those curious about how this actually works: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1330467

Related: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/FirstPartyIsolation

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #131
post #31

We're going from cold war to all-in. Not just a privacy question. Reddit nags me every time I hit the front page, even returning from a story, asking me to log in. For most sites I need to create ublock filters to prevent pop-ups with useless "we use cookies", subscription requests, ads or social media bars that fills half the screen, etc. etc. etc. Every newspaper I read has decided that autostarting video and strea…

"We use cookies on this site! Read our Cookie-policy mambo jumbo here! "

Blame the stupid EU cookie law for that though, not the sites. Cookies can actually be very user/privacy friendly, since they provide a way to retain user preferences without requiring an account to tie them to.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

#136
post #27

I used Firefox's containers for about a day, and then I discovered the privacy.firstparty.isolate option (in about:config), which effectively gives every site its own container with no user effort. That, combined with Cookie AutoDelete, seems to work well.

"... and then I discovered the privacy.firstparty.isolate option (in about:config), which effectively gives every site its own container ..."

But with its own IP, possibly a non-routable, private IP ?

I think not ... and that's too bad because that is what we really need. We need the ability to chroot jail a GUI program just like we jail named or (whatever).

A different root, a different IP, and no access (or knowledge) of the rest of the system. If I used facebook, that's the browser I would run it in.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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> I finally feel free to search for whatever I want and not have second thoughts. Doesn't Google also link sessions through IP Address? That combined with "how you usually browse" + interests is a very powerful deanonymization tool.

You may be very right. I haven't encountered any targeting related to search terms yet, but I'm sure they have the capability. I do need to make the leap to DuckDuckGo at some point!

I did both at the same time. Containers were the easier of the switches, because while DDG does an admirable job, it's not Google level quality for searches, and it can't be while still providing privacy. 80% of the time it's fine, the rest is acclimating yourself to g! and reminding yourself it exists.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #132

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That's absolutely wrong! Tracking protection just results in dumber ads. But they still clutter your pages and waste your bandwidth.

That tracking protection is a good enough ad blocker for me is absolutely wrong? You do realize that tracking protection actually blocks ads, don't you?

I did not know that, sorry. I thought it blocks tracking cookies and stuff. Does it actually hide advert elements from the page? If yes, I can see how it can be good enough for most people.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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post #65

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Things will break like logging in with Google/Facebook/other OAuths that use popup window redirects, iframe services like Disqus or Facebook comments, Google's captcha will become more annoying, less local caching will happen which means slower browsing in general.

Yet another reason why you should avoid using service to log into another as much as possible.

I'm really of two minds about this. On the one hand you can use Facebook or Google to log in and then have them know what sites you log into. Or you can use a site's native login and be pretty sure that at some point you're going to get a "we take security very seriously" notice after they screw up and expose all their user data.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Google logins still work, this is a different kind of container from the Firefox container tabs. I use this feature with container tabs and it's fine. There are so far one or two sites I've come across that this breaks, neither of them anything I care about.

Sorry, are you using `privacy.firstparty.isolate` or container tabs? I think SparkyMcUnicorn was saying the former would not work for them.

Both. I'm saying they work together fine, and isolate works fine with Google logins. It's not that strict.
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