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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by asdsa5325 » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:44 PM UTC

badloginagain wrote: post #7

Im using uBlock origin and PrivacyBadger, will this cover something Im missing?

PrivacyBadger might not block all trackers. Firefox containers "block" all trackers (or rather, they allow all trackers but limit the information they can gather completely).

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by walrus01 » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:47 PM UTC

If anyone in your household uses FB from the IOS or android mobile app from wifi, it will have both your IP address and GPS coordinates. Correlating that multiple people share one residence or workplace is easily done for FB. You can keep playing a shell game like run all your desktop PC traffic through a VPN somewhere so that the FB container doesn't show up as the same geolocation, but you or an ignorant non technical user you live or work with will slip up.

Edit: fb also buys geolocation data from organizations that do the modern equivalent of wardriving. Correlating GPS location with RSSI of specific wifi SSIDs and AP MAC addresses. If anyone near you uses the app, even if their phone has all location services turned off, you're still geoprofiled to within a city block.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by moocowtruck » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:47 PM UTC

cool, but if anything tells me there's something wrong with permission systems it's this... the permissions it asked for, if that was any extension i'd be leery of it, but since this is from mozilla i trusted it..

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by unethical_ban » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:47 PM UTC

jacobsenscott wrote: post #12

I've been trying to use Firefox's containers for a while. They are pretty clunky - you need to open a blank container tab using a menu and then enter the url. I forget to do that all the time, so after some time you are just logged into everything in the "global" container, or logged in to google and twitter in the same container etc. If you check the "Always open this page in this container thing" - then it prompts…

There is an add-on called "new container tab" that uses alt+C to open a new tab in the same container. So I'll open my banking tab and Alt+C several times to do all my monthly tasks.

And as others have said, the "always open in this tab" shouldn't act how you describe.

Finally, there is an option in about:config called "firstparty.isolate" or something similar that does what containers do, for the most part, by default. It will break SSO with Google/Facebook/etc. though.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by 0xfeba » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:49 PM UTC

jacobsenscott wrote: post #12

I've been trying to use Firefox's containers for a while. They are pretty clunky - you need to open a blank container tab using a menu and then enter the url. I forget to do that all the time, so after some time you are just logged into everything in the "global" container, or logged in to google and twitter in the same container etc. If you check the "Always open this page in this container thing" - then it prompts…

Agreed, in Chrome I used profiles to segregate, and it worked well.

Profiles in Firefox is somewhat clunky to use at the same time (I end up just using two installations).

I tried containers as well, but gave up, due to reasons you describe.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by Operyl » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:57 PM UTC

> In addition, websites that allow you to create an account or log in using your Facebook credentials will generally not work properly. Because this extension is designed to separate Facebook use from use of other websites, this behavior is expected.

As much as I love these kinds of things, this is going to break something for my less tech-y family. As such, I can't let them use this kind of thing.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by 07d046 » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:57 PM UTC

I used Firefox's containers for about a day, and then I discovered the privacy.firstparty.isolate option (in about:config), which effectively gives every site its own container with no user effort. That, combined with Cookie AutoDelete, seems to work well.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by gowld » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:57 PM UTC

asdsa5325 wrote: post #20

zyztem wrote: post #10

Unsurprisingly there is no Google container for Firefox

You can use containers for any website / group of webistes. The specific Facebook-only container extension is for people who don't want to hassle of organizing their containers themselves and only want one for Facebook.

Hey why is Firefox giving Facebook preferential treatment?

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by justinzollars » Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 11:58 PM UTC

asdsa5325 wrote: post #20

zyztem wrote: post #10

Unsurprisingly there is no Google container for Firefox

You can use containers for any website / group of webistes. The specific Facebook-only container extension is for people who don't want to hassle of organizing their containers themselves and only want one for Facebook.

Do you have any more information on how to do this? A link? I'm interested in isolating google.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by RX14 » Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 12:03 AM UTC

jacobsenscott wrote: post #12

I've been trying to use Firefox's containers for a while. They are pretty clunky - you need to open a blank container tab using a menu and then enter the url. I forget to do that all the time, so after some time you are just logged into everything in the "global" container, or logged in to google and twitter in the same container etc. If you check the "Always open this page in this container thing" - then it prompts…

You can middle click on the refresh button and it'll clone the tab you're currently in. Very useful for duplicating containers.

And yes, that's terrible discovery in ux.