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Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

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Re: Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

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Post by smacktoward »

russellbeattie wrote: post #29
yndoendo wrote: post #4

Still cannot understand the IoT mentality. It is actually the CoT Communication of Things. Internet shouldn't be required to turn your lights on or off nor be the device communication backbone in an industrial enviornment. Internet should always be the last resort for communicating because of the distance.

Totally with you. Maybe I'm a pessimist or a luddite or something, but I really don't think IoT devices should be connected directly to the Internet. Most are just too simple, underpowered or cheaply made to adequately defend themselves from attacks. IoT gadgets should always talk to a more powerful/secure hub of some sort, which then is exposed to the Internet. Seriously, my WiFi lightbulb switch just has no busines…

But then how am I supposed to turn the garage doors of all the other houses on my cul-de-sac into the world's largest game of Hungry Hungry Hippos?

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Post by giancarlostoro »

drexlspivey wrote: post #279
giancarlostoro wrote: post #256

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You sure it's not checking for updates?

No, updates work fine. Some blocked domains : settings-win.data.microsoft.com, v10.vortex-win.data.microsoft.com, mobile.pipe.aria.microsoft.com, nexusrules.officeapps.live.com

Really making me want to setup PiHole now... any tips on what to block?

Re: Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

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Post by pureagave »

pwagland wrote: post #231
mrweasel wrote: post #229

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Windows 10 Pro is 1899DKK from Microsoft, that's 315USD. Home is cheaper, at 1099 (180USD).

In the Netherlands it is 259€ ( https://www.microsoft.com/nl-nl/store/d/windows-10-pro/df77x... ) that is 317USD in the conversion, so that sounds about right when you don't live in the US. Of course, these European prices already include sales tax, which the US prices don't, but even then it would still be ~250USD without BTW.

I have to wonder if the EU prices include the cost of doing business in the EU. Like paying the big EU fines.

Re: Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

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Post by cutler »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #38
cutler wrote: post #31

Just curious, how's Microsoft's bogus Linux patents racket doing these days?

I think they've moved on from shaking down companies and customers that use Linux to shaking down companies that use Android. SEP 20, 2011 Casio agrees to pay Microsoft an undisclosed sum for a deal that includes Microsoft's vow not to sue Casio's customers for using its Linux devices Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith and licensing chief Horacio Gutierrez sat down with Fortune recently to map out their strategy fo…

I vaguely recall Google making noises about taking-on Microsoft's over their patent mafia tactics but it seem nothing came of it.

Re: Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

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Post by flukus »

simion314 wrote: post #224
flukus wrote: post #145

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Sorry, but a zero tolerance policy of is the only way to stay sane. I don't have time to keep up with every policy change and update on what every app and tool I use has done lately. I ditched windows for a reason (several, but privacy was one) and I've got no intention of checking every 3 months how far down the slippery slope ubuntu has gone. And they will go down that slippery slope because it's abundantly clear t…

You are spreading FUD, for some reason a person that has no tiem to read the privacy settings checkboxes you are aware of the latest FUD campaigns, the latest one is about the program that collects hardware info at installation time, this is not tracking you, it is an option to send hardware info upsteeam so developers have real information, now everyone has to quote the Steam survey and this source is gaming focused…

> for some reason a person that has no tiem to read the privacy settings checkboxes you are aware of the latest FUD campaigns

Because it happened to be mentioned in a preview video I watched on youtube. What happens in 3 months when they change that policy and it get's past my radar? This is FUD canonical have created by not taking privacy seriously.

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Post by simion314 »

flukus wrote: post #286
simion314 wrote: post #224

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You are spreading FUD, for some reason a person that has no tiem to read the privacy settings checkboxes you are aware of the latest FUD campaigns, the latest one is about the program that collects hardware info at installation time, this is not tracking you, it is an option to send hardware info upsteeam so developers have real information, now everyone has to quote the Steam survey and this source is gaming focused…

> for some reason a person that has no tiem to read the privacy settings checkboxes you are aware of the latest FUD campaigns Because it happened to be mentioned in a preview video I watched on youtube. What happens in 3 months when they change that policy and it get's past my radar? This is FUD canonical have created by not taking privacy seriously.

Watch sources that do not spread FUD, same video sources probably praise Valve and Steam but get triggered but that checkbox because is enabled by default, (also don't use Ubuntu if you doubt the direction it is going but don't spread FUD)

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Post by shawnz »

Sebguer wrote: post #248
shawnz wrote: post #242

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I wonder if there's any money to be made in an electric heating company that installs bitcoin miners in your home instead of heating coils.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/08/qarnot-unveils-a-cryptocur...

Nice, although IMO they've got it wrong: They should keep the coins and lease the units at a lower price than traditional systems of a comparable wattage.

Re: Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

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Post by Tom4hawk »

hungerstrike wrote: post #266
NiveaGeForce wrote: post #241

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You can disable Cortana in every version of Windows 10 from regular settings, and it even asks you upon install. Telemetry can be set to basic in settings too, which is harmless, and it also asks you upon install.

Maybe you know this already but here's some friendly advice: You're not going to get anywhere defending Windows or Microsoft against the HN crowd. Most of them live in a bubble and it's just not cool to use Windows or Microsoft products...so even when you're right, which you are, the most you can hope for is that they'll ignore your comment instead of spouting off some ridiculous nonsense that they actually have no c…

I don't care if "Basic" setting sends harmless information. I don't want to send ANYTHING. It's my computer, I paid for it, I paid for this system and I want full control.

Full disclosure: I don't use Windows, I don't use Apple products, I'm trying to avoid using any closed-source software.

Re: Microsoft built its own custom Linux kernel for its new IoT service

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Post by chopin »

NiveaGeForce wrote: post #250
794CD01 wrote: post #246

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Would you trust each doctor to know enough about IT security to be capable of protecting patient data without hiring someone else to run their enterprise IT infrastructure?

Nothing of personal value is logged, when telemetry is set to Basic level.

Is there any reputable audit of this? Beyond what Microsoft claims?

This is a difficult problem. The software could be audited by an independent third party. However each update needs to be audited as well. Furthermore the binary of the initial state and each subsequent update binary would have to be signed by the auditor in a way allowing independent verification of the signature.

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