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maybe that's the future .. globalization reduced borders and culture meaningfulness. Lots of global social structures are results of large companies and not nations.

If Musk martian fantasy succeed it may even be earth vs planets in a way.

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Am I alone in thinking this isn't heresy? A country or federal state is just a company with a monopoly over law in a certain geographical region. Facebook's "monopoly" is at least subject to the whim of the market, as the Delete Facebook campaign shows.

Look at last week. The senate was on their high-horse, admonishing facebook for privacy infringements, totally unaware of the irony they are an appendage of the same entity which created the NSA and continues to eavesdrop on all of our conversations.

We can all opt out of Facebook. Thankfully many have. But NSA surveillance is involuntary.

Why are we more worried about a voluntary and foreseeable risk than an involuntary rights violation?

Don't interpret this as saying Facebook acted appropriately.

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just “early”. If you talk to FB employees they do really seem to believe they’re “changing the world”, and that their product is a gift to mankind rather than an abomination.

What makes you think that Facebook is an abomination?

What makes you think it is a gift to mankind?

Re: I was Zuckerberg’s speechwriter

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post #35

Zuckerberg espouses some sort of utopian idealism and is pushing his Facebook experiment on the world. The capitalist underpinnings of his project completely denigrate those views. I've heard the same thing from him and his apparatchiks consistently - and in his written testimony to Congress: "My top priority has always been our social mission of connecting people, building community and bringing the world closer tog…

Facebook only exists as a surveillance and control tool. Everything else is just a means to an end. Zuckerberg is just the front man. Once they are done with him he will be in the ditch like Travis.

Re: I was Zuckerberg’s speechwriter

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was hoping that a congressman would ask Zuckerberg if he still viewed his users this way. I'm sure he had a well-prepared response to this exact question, just in case.

Look, i really don't like fb's practices as much as the next guy here ( you can check my history if you want to) but are you really going to hold someone accountable for something they said when they were 19-21?

Yes. You can be tried as an adult, go to war, vote, and drink, marry, have children, and so on. You’re an adult, and fully accountable.

Re: I was Zuckerberg’s speechwriter

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post #43

Am I alone in thinking this isn't heresy? A country or federal state is just a company with a monopoly over law in a certain geographical region. Facebook's "monopoly" is at least subject to the whim of the market, as the Delete Facebook campaign shows. Look at last week. The senate was on their high-horse, admonishing facebook for privacy infringements, totally unaware of the irony they are an appendage of the same…

>We can all opt out of Facebook. Thankfully many have.

I'm pretty sure that is not accurate. We can't opt out of Facebook without significant effort which most people aren't even aware is possible and which can prevent some websites from working (NoScript, router rules, etc).

They use the 'share' buttons built into most websites to collect information about and profit off of people who never signed up for the service, never agreed to their EULA, and never consented to interact with the company.

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post #4

The rise of nationalist populism, although something I still disagree quite contentiously with, really begins making more sense when opinions like this start leaking out.

It goes counter to the idea of a globally connected internet though. Without a degree of oppression of free speech you can't stop the flow of culture and ideas no matter how big of a wall you build.

How does respecting national sovereignty rather than letting your government be trampled over by international corporations run counter to a globally connected internet?

This sort of attitude might seem like "nationalist populism" now, but it wasn't that long ago that "the left" was on the same page. I still am personally, but there seems to be a disturbing trend where anti-Trump sentiment is being leveraged to promote a corporate agenda.

Re: I was Zuckerberg’s speechwriter

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post #43

Am I alone in thinking this isn't heresy? A country or federal state is just a company with a monopoly over law in a certain geographical region. Facebook's "monopoly" is at least subject to the whim of the market, as the Delete Facebook campaign shows. Look at last week. The senate was on their high-horse, admonishing facebook for privacy infringements, totally unaware of the irony they are an appendage of the same…

I didn't vote for Zuckerberg.
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