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It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Can Iridum do multi-user the way Chrome does? I have different Chrome users configured for different things. That, AFAIK, makes FF a no go for me.

Firefox has multi-container, it's pretty close.

I like multi-container better than chrome's solution. I can keep sites from seeing cookie from any other site. Or I can create a group of sites that can share login sessions. And all I have to do is click the links and it all happens automatically.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Why did your security classify Firefox as a risk?

It was just after WannaCry was big news. They had installed some Blucoat or something along those lines. I think Firefox didn't play so nice with the monitoring software hence it was classified a risk. I have to add that the Security Director wasn't a security expert, highly ambitious and was never going to entertain anything he didn't understand.

>> I have to add that the Security Director wasn't a security expert

Typical.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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I use both Firefox and Chrome and find that the most noticeable difference is the time to open a new tab. Chrome is always fast, but Firefox sometimes lags. On the other hand, I find that when my fan is spinning up, it's usually because of tabs in Chrome.

This. The time it takes to open the browser or create a new tab are sometimes way long. Unacceptable when doing development work in browser.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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I never gave up on Firefox. I always knew Google Chrome was sending back telemetry data or whatever and never looked back. Also with how many sites are "only working in Chrome" these days I still hold the claim that Chrome is working itself to being the next IE in terms of breaking the web for people using other browsers. I still hold respect for Chrome in other areas though. Firefox was always complained about but h…

What sites only work with Chrome? Even though Safari has a minuscule desktop market share, I can't see most sites being incompatible with iOS.

It's not so much about "sites", as it is "apps". The most recent instance I recall is this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16467387

Open this page in a browser other than Chrome: https://pagedraw.io/tutorials/basics

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Here's my favorite metaphor to explain Chrome and Firefox. So, imagine you have two cars to chose from. The first car, called Chrome, is really cool - it's quick, it's nice, it's reliable, it's comfortable. There's just one thing. There's a guy on the back seat. He's always there. He writes down wherever you're going. When you go shopping, he makes a copy of the receipt. When you drive with someone, he listens to the…

Unfortunately the Firefox car, running on Android fuel, has awfully weird driving (scrolling) physics that for some reason are different to every other car. If they fixed that I might be inclined to have another look, but they've had many years and still haven't addressed it.

Can you explain more about that? I use Firefox on Android 8.1 and haven't noticed any issues with scrolling.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Firefox, on occasion, cannot play videos above 4fps until I restart it. After running for awhile, Firefox slows my entire system down to the point there is a 250ms-500ms delay for every key press. Despite all this I keep trying to make FF my primary browser, but wow it is hard. I'm actually using Opera as my day to day, it has hotkeys that are just a little bit better than Chrome's, backspace still does what I'm used…

Your computer may have memory issues, I've seen similar symptoms before.

It is possible, but I can run Opera with hundreds of tabs for days on end with no problem.

With performance degradation over time, it is hard to determine if it is hardware slowly fading, or software bloat running its natural course.

I should run a mem tester though.

Fwiw I can load the same page up in Opera or Chrome and it will smoothly play, while FF trips over itself in the background.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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I kicked the tyres on the new Quantum'd Firefox. Oddly I found that the GPU utilisation on my MacBook Pro is significantly higher than Chrome, even higher than Safari. Playing a YouTube video would make the MBP's fans spin significantly faster than normal which meant it' wasn't overly usable. The numbers were roughly 750 Mhz Firefox, 550 Mhz Chrome and 450 Mhz with Safari.

Not sure if it's an option I've got configured, I'd love to find out what was causing this though!

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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> I always knew Google Chrome was sending back telemetry data or whatever and never looked back. Then You may want to try Iridium which is privacy and security oriented Chrome fork.

Can Iridum do multi-user the way Chrome does? I have different Chrome users configured for different things. That, AFAIK, makes FF a no go for me.

I'm not sure how that works in chrome, but profiles in firefox are completely separate, and you can run multiple at the same time. I have them configured for different things, too. If you're running linux, just do:

    firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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I have been using FF as my main browser for years. While most of the world moved to Chrome-I stuck around because Chrome's bookmark sync would rearrange every bookmark in a bookmark folder. This was years ago, but then I started getting concerned about Google's tracking and have stuck with FF since. (I gave Chrome a chance years later-same exact issue.) During this time I kept running into reasons to keep FF besides…

> Chrome's PDF reader works better than FF's open source JS one.

Note: while Chrome's PDF reader wasn't open in the beginning, it is now: https://pdfium.googlesource.com/pdfium/

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Unfortunately the Firefox car, running on Android fuel, has awfully weird driving (scrolling) physics that for some reason are different to every other car. If they fixed that I might be inclined to have another look, but they've had many years and still haven't addressed it.

Can you explain more about that? I use Firefox on Android 8.1 and haven't noticed any issues with scrolling.

The scrolling physics were different to every other app I used. This was the same over many years with many different android devices. I don't know what else I can say about it.
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