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It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by scarface74 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #56

I never gave up on Firefox. I always knew Google Chrome was sending back telemetry data or whatever and never looked back. Also with how many sites are "only working in Chrome" these days I still hold the claim that Chrome is working itself to being the next IE in terms of breaking the web for people using other browsers. I still hold respect for Chrome in other areas though. Firefox was always complained about but h…

What sites only work with Chrome? Even though Safari has a minuscule desktop market share, I can't see most sites being incompatible with iOS.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by chiefalchemist »

glogla wrote: post #38

Here's my favorite metaphor to explain Chrome and Firefox. So, imagine you have two cars to chose from. The first car, called Chrome, is really cool - it's quick, it's nice, it's reliable, it's comfortable. There's just one thing. There's a guy on the back seat. He's always there. He writes down wherever you're going. When you go shopping, he makes a copy of the receipt. When you drive with someone, he listens to the…

Chrome allows for multiple users. FF does not. That why, in my case, forces me to Chrome.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by freetime2 »

I have tried switching to the newer version of FF but have found that I just can't live without Chrome's built-in "Translate to English" feature. I realize that this probably isn't that important to most users, but for me it's something that I use almost daily. I checked briefly for FF plugins that offered the same functionality, but quickly got the sense that nothing was going to match the quality of Chrome's implementation, so I switched back to Chrome as my default browser.

Has anyone found a worthy replacement for Chrome's translation feature in FF?

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by drewmol »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #110
vermaden wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I always knew Google Chrome was sending back telemetry data or whatever and never looked back. Then You may want to try Iridium which is privacy and security oriented Chrome fork.

Can Iridum do multi-user the way Chrome does? I have different Chrome users configured for different things. That, AFAIK, makes FF a no go for me.

Firefox has multi-container, it's pretty close.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by DavideNL »

Pistos2 wrote: post #47
glogla wrote: post #38

Here's my favorite metaphor to explain Chrome and Firefox. So, imagine you have two cars to chose from. The first car, called Chrome, is really cool - it's quick, it's nice, it's reliable, it's comfortable. There's just one thing. There's a guy on the back seat. He's always there. He writes down wherever you're going. When you go shopping, he makes a copy of the receipt. When you drive with someone, he listens to the…

With respect to your analogy: What of Chromium [with the right settings switched in the user's favour]?

Well, there's this: https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by shady-lady »

I kept with firefox through it all but started use Chrome for dev exclusively. The only reason I stuck with firefox was Tree Style Tabs.

While I'm delighted at their recent improvements, I still can't help but wonder if they are putting the ~500 million they get each year to good use.

There are still features in the browser that are quite lacking:

- history -> history viewer is still so ~basic~. most query constructs that could be run against the history db should be exposed through the UI. I also think it would be great if I could see the path I took to a url history(e.g. linked browsing)

- sync isn't done. I feel sync should also sync settings* from about:config & extension settings. I also would like to see the upper limit massively bumped up from the Mozilla sync service.

These may seem like big asks but Mozilla is taking in 1/2 billion a year [1]

* for those settings where it makes sense to sync.

[1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/3240008/web-browsers/m...

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by klez »

torstenvl wrote: post #51
klez wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? What's wrong with Quantum?

On Mac at least, basic UI like hover highlighting is extremely slow. Obviously everyone's environment, use case, and experiences are different. For me, personally, Quantum is not even in the same league as Chrome or Safari. (Also, for me, personally, I think downvoting people who have differing experiences is less than productive.)

Just to be clear, I didn't downvote neither this nor the post I replied to.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by outworlder »

The only issue for me regarding Firefox is when I'm on a Mac laptop not connected to power. It is still eating far too much battery compared to Chrome – Safari is no contest. This may be related to the unhealthy number of tabs I keep open.

Other then that, it feels great and is improving.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by allengeorge »

scarface74 wrote: post #111
giancarlostoro wrote: post #56

I never gave up on Firefox. I always knew Google Chrome was sending back telemetry data or whatever and never looked back. Also with how many sites are "only working in Chrome" these days I still hold the claim that Chrome is working itself to being the next IE in terms of breaking the web for people using other browsers. I still hold respect for Chrome in other areas though. Firefox was always complained about but h…

What sites only work with Chrome? Even though Safari has a minuscule desktop market share, I can't see most sites being incompatible with iOS.

BoA still claims I'm using an "unsupported browser" when I use Firefox.

Very annoying, because AFAICT everything works perfectly.

Re: It’s time to give Firefox a fresh chance

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Post by martinpw »

boudin wrote: post #15
sofaofthedamned wrote: post #2

I have done - and it's awesome on Windows / Fedora. But it's so janky and slow on Android, this is on a Pixel 2 XL. What is so wrong with the Android version? For the record i've tried to move across for ad-blocking which Chrome doesn't provide, and I do need the account sync. Firefox is just as janky without any plugins on Android.

It does feel slower. With a low memory device it's a pain, but on a high-end one I don't find this that annoying. The good side is that's it provides plugins (so proper ad-blocking) and custom search engines. I haven't found any other browser as complete on Android. It balance the not as smooth feeling when scrolling which is not that important to me

I use FF on Android just because I can block ads with extensions since the ad-laden experience is so unbearable on mobile, even though overall Chrome seems a better browser. So I'm puzzled that its market share on that platform is so low (0.6% according to the article), given you cannot use blockers like UBlock Origin with mobile Chrome.

Since ad blockers on desktop have a pretty high penetration, what is going on on mobile? Does everyone really just browse on Android without blocking ads?

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