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Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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At this point, you are just complaining that iOS is not open source.

Those are pretty basic functions that Apple just locks you into. iOS would not have to be open source for those things to change… At all.

That wasn't my point. My point was that all those requests are feature requests, as opposed to lifting some artificial restrictions. Because iOS is not open source, they would need to be coded by Apple, so it's a perfectly valid business decision on their sise not to invest in them.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/11/iphone-replacement-displ... Can you explain this?

If you mean "can I provide you the exact reason why it happened", no. But I still think it's much more likely that Apple just doesn't test for third-party repairs than that they deliberately work to come up with ways to break a third-party repair without breaking their own repairs. I believe this because I've worked on software teams that developed things that would only be used in-house in controlled ways, and I've…

We're clearly operating on seperate planes here. Your reasoning as far as I can tell, is your own belief, and not based on evidence that anyone can verify. My reasoning is based on Apples actions, their own comments, experiences of third party repair shops who are being threatened by Apple, and my own experience with third party repair shops.

I can never understand why people want to stop others from choosing where they repair their products. If you (not you specifically) think third party repairs are shady, well great ! you already have a choice and you can get yours serviced at Apple. We should be free to make decisions about things we own. Apple fighting to block our right is disspointing.

>But I still think it's much more likely that Apple just doesn't test for third-party repairs than that they deliberately work to come up with ways to break a third-party repair without breaking their own repairs.

There is no "testing for repair". When you replace a component on a logic board, it either works or if its sabotaged (like inkjet cartriges, kurig kcups, iphone screens), it doesn't. And thats if you're doing a component level repair. For parts replacement, it should be way easier. I get the feeling you're not very familiar with how electronics repair works. It is really nothing like software.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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I'm not sure it's better that GP wouldn't have been able to do what he did successfully, because other people might have failed thinking they could succeed. Just because some people might fail at certain tasks thinking they could perform aftermarket changes (so long my Palm IIIx and iPhone 3G) doesn't mean all people will fail at these things (wayhey hello new screen on my Thinkpad and significantly improved wifi on…

Just part out your MacBook Air. I just parted out a mid-2011 and got about US$600 for it, excluding the useless battery and frayed power cord.

Being forced to sell a product in perfectly good computer just because the manufacturer goes to extreme lengths to stop you from even performing the most trivial upgrade ever is not a solution. In fact, that caters to a single party's interests, which is the manufacturer itself. You're being forced by the manufacturer to waste a bigger chunk of your hard-earned money by giving it away to him.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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> They want people who bought iphone to have the best experience they prepared for them. It's quite obvious that, to put it mildly, that's wishful thinking inspired by a heavily rose-tainted view of Apple. Meanwhile, Apple is known for their extreme price gouging complemented with extreme actions to stop even their very own customers from even repairing their broken products, let alone upgrade them to a usable state.

Apples 'price gouging' is just smart business. How do you get people in the low end to buy your product. But get the best margin on the high end? The base model of their products are perfectly servicable and price competitive for the quality. They just know what the wealthier consumers are willing to shell out for.

> Apples 'price gouging' is just smart business.

Hooray Apple and its stockholders, but the consumer keeps on getting thoroughly screwed over and over again.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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> They want people who bought iphone to have the best experience they prepared for them. It's quite obvious that, to put it mildly, that's wishful thinking inspired by a heavily rose-tainted view of Apple. Meanwhile, Apple is known for their extreme price gouging complemented with extreme actions to stop even their very own customers from even repairing their broken products, let alone upgrade them to a usable state.

> complemented with extreme actions to stop even their very own customers from even repairing their broken products Like what kind of actions? I can go to ifixit.com right now, order parts for my iPhone, order tools to work on my iPhone, and watch detailed instructions about how to repair my iPhone. (or Mac, or iPad, etc.) The products are NOT easy to work on, but I am not aware of any action that Apple has taken aga…

> Like what kind of actions?

Well.... You can start by reading the news piece that's the source of this discussion. You know, the article on how Apple went to extreme actions to stop even their very own customers from even repairing their broken products or even upgrade them to a usable state.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Apples 'price gouging' is just smart business. How do you get people in the low end to buy your product. But get the best margin on the high end? The base model of their products are perfectly servicable and price competitive for the quality. They just know what the wealthier consumers are willing to shell out for.

> Apples 'price gouging' is just smart business. Hooray Apple and its stockholders, but the consumer keeps on getting thoroughly screwed over and over again.

"dont hate the player, hate the game"

Capitalistic tendencies in capitalist companies is not shocking.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Don't give them ideas.

I don't understand why the geniuses at Apple haven't seen the obvious flaws in our American/European/Asian/etc wall plugs and sockets and created Apple branded proprietary wall plugs and sockets that are totally incompatible with all current American/European/Asian/etc. plugs and sockets. Apple products would all use the proprietary plugs, while 'obsolete' devices with standard plugs would require a $40-100 Apple ada…

Asian outlets are amazingly versatile: they happily take both European and US plugs. It's a real pleasure not having to bring converter plugs with you. I am still wondering why airports all over the world have not adopted them.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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I don't know. Those all seem like valid complaints to me. The os is separate from the applications and everything he listed has its own industry. Microsoft was reamed over installing IE as the default browser on their OS, so how is not letting you change safari as the default on iOS any different?

Microsoft had a monopoly. Apple doesn't. If you don't like it, go buy an Android phone.

I mean, that's exactly what many of us are doing.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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> The first thing you are being told when becoming Apple Authorized Service provider is UP-SELL. Your main function and profit source is telling people "cant be repaired/repair will cost as much as new one, would you like this new model?" I had water damage to a 2013 MBP, minor but nonetheless. It passed all diagnostics. Ran fine on AC power. Battery diagnostics were fine too. But it wouldn't charge. "Charge circuit…

Interesting that after such an experience you'd still get your step daughter hooked into that same eco system after buying yet another MBP . It looks as if Apple got exactly what it wanted.

Yeah, I was just about to say. "They told me to buy another MacBook, but joke's on them! I did!"

Presumably, anyway.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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I don't understand why the geniuses at Apple haven't seen the obvious flaws in our American/European/Asian/etc wall plugs and sockets and created Apple branded proprietary wall plugs and sockets that are totally incompatible with all current American/European/Asian/etc. plugs and sockets. Apple products would all use the proprietary plugs, while 'obsolete' devices with standard plugs would require a $40-100 Apple ada…

Asian outlets are amazingly versatile: they happily take both European and US plugs. It's a real pleasure not having to bring converter plugs with you. I am still wondering why airports all over the world have not adopted them.

That sounds great. Though, how is the voltage difference handled?
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