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Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by [deleted] »

snowwrestler wrote: post #90
geezerjay wrote: post #53

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> They want people who bought iphone to have the best experience they prepared for them. It's quite obvious that, to put it mildly, that's wishful thinking inspired by a heavily rose-tainted view of Apple. Meanwhile, Apple is known for their extreme price gouging complemented with extreme actions to stop even their very own customers from even repairing their broken products, let alone upgrade them to a usable state.

> complemented with extreme actions to stop even their very own customers from even repairing their broken products Like what kind of actions? I can go to ifixit.com right now, order parts for my iPhone, order tools to work on my iPhone, and watch detailed instructions about how to repair my iPhone. (or Mac, or iPad, etc.) The products are NOT easy to work on, but I am not aware of any action that Apple has taken aga…

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Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by kolpa »

solarkraft wrote: post #117
ilyanep wrote: post #110

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It's really more like getting a Ford vs third-party part for your car, which yes, every car manufacturer will recommend. It's not like Apple is trying to sell you Apple electricity. Regardless, this is a pretty low-effort attempt to make a point.

Car manufacturers may recommend against custom parts, but they probably don't (yet) detect you're using one and work to make your experience worse. Safety is one thing. Working against your customer another.

Yes they do.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xykkkd/why-americ...

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by jehlakj »

eesmith wrote: post #95
comboy wrote: post #47

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I don't think they want to squeeze every cent. I think they just care about the brand. They want people who bought iphone to have the best experience they prepared for them. Even if you buy some used iphone. If somebody buys some used iphone and it acts weird or the build quality seems imperfect because some parts were replaced, then this person may spread opinion that iphones suck. I'd guess that's their reasoning.…

At Ford™ we care about our brand. We want people who bought a Ford™ car to have the best experience we prepared for them. Other fuels may contain additives which make your Ford™ engine seem imperfect. A few misguided people are tempted by the siren call of the independent fuel suppliers to use something other than the Ford™ fuel specially made for your needs. When things go wrong, they spread rumors that Ford™ vehicl…

Any reason why you used the ford brand as an example? I don’t like or hate them - just curious why them over others, if there’s any reason at all.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by Y_Y »

conradev wrote: post #108
comboy wrote: post #47

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I don't think they want to squeeze every cent. I think they just care about the brand. They want people who bought iphone to have the best experience they prepared for them. Even if you buy some used iphone. If somebody buys some used iphone and it acts weird or the build quality seems imperfect because some parts were replaced, then this person may spread opinion that iphones suck. I'd guess that's their reasoning.…

This has happened multiple times: 1. Users swap parts in a way Apple didn't account for in software 2. Something goes wrong, users blame Apple for intentionally breaking third party repairs 3. Apple deals with it Touch ID mismatch: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/19/error-53-... Third party screens: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208067#1103 Third party screens, again: https://www.theguardian.com/t…

Of course the screens are non-genuine

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/23.24

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by beenBoutIT »

adrianN wrote: post #122
Techowl wrote: post #109

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Wouldn't car parts be a much more accurate analogy, though? Apple isn't suing anyone for not using Apple-branded electricity to power their phone.

Don't give them ideas.

I don't understand why the geniuses at Apple haven't seen the obvious flaws in our American/European/Asian/etc wall plugs and sockets and created Apple branded proprietary wall plugs and sockets that are totally incompatible with all current American/European/Asian/etc. plugs and sockets. Apple products would all use the proprietary plugs, while 'obsolete' devices with standard plugs would require a $40-100 Apple adapter. The Apple home isn't truly going to be an Apple Home until you can't plug a non-Apple device into a wall socket without forking over money to Apple for an unnecessary adapter.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by beenBoutIT »

lisper wrote: post #135
Techowl wrote: post #109

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Wouldn't car parts be a much more accurate analogy, though? Apple isn't suing anyone for not using Apple-branded electricity to power their phone.

No, but they are making it very difficult for anyone to use, for example, non-Apple-branded cloud storage. And they are making it nearly impossible for anyone to use non-Apple-approved apps.

Isn't it nearly impossible to so much as download a file from the Internet on an Apple device, or have they changed that?

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by slavik81 »

alasdair_ wrote: post #128
Techowl wrote: post #109

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Wouldn't car parts be a much more accurate analogy, though? Apple isn't suing anyone for not using Apple-branded electricity to power their phone.

>Wouldn't car parts be a much more accurate analogy, though? Yes. The FCC actually sent out reminders to phone companies two days ago reminding them that use of aftermarket parts cannot void a warranty. This also applies to things like "warranty void if seal removed" stickers etc. https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/04/10/ftc-reminds-phone-m...

It doesn't change your point, but that was the FTC, not the FCC.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by acomjean »

lisper wrote: post #135
Techowl wrote: post #109

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Wouldn't car parts be a much more accurate analogy, though? Apple isn't suing anyone for not using Apple-branded electricity to power their phone.

No, but they are making it very difficult for anyone to use, for example, non-Apple-branded cloud storage. And they are making it nearly impossible for anyone to use non-Apple-approved apps.

Heck even apple approved charging cables sometimes give me the "this accessory might not work correctly on this device". Gives me pause, but it goes away once I retry...

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by kristofferR »

Reason077 wrote: post #115

"Norway’s customs officials had seized a shipment of 63 iPhone 6 and 6S replacement screens on their way to Henrik’s shop from Asia and alerted Apple; the company said they were counterfeit." Wow, talk about snitches! Has anyone notified Apple about amazon.com? Pretty sure they're selling 'counterfeit' iPhone screens too.

I doubt Amazon would be allowed to do their pro-counterfeit practices for very long in Norway. Perhaps that's one of the reasons they don't have a presence here yet.

The Norwegian custom officials are evil heinous people anyway though, they've recently begun confiscating test kits (even though they're legal) and reporting it to the police. Thank god Norway is decriminalizing soon.

Re: Apple Sued an iPhone Repair Shop Owner in Norway and Lost

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Post by conradev »

Y_Y wrote: post #144
conradev wrote: post #108

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This has happened multiple times: 1. Users swap parts in a way Apple didn't account for in software 2. Something goes wrong, users blame Apple for intentionally breaking third party repairs 3. Apple deals with it Touch ID mismatch: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/19/error-53-... Third party screens: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208067#1103 Third party screens, again: https://www.theguardian.com/t…

Of course the screens are non-genuine https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/23.24

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