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Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

#22
Doesn't it also mean that Telegram is a database of copyright infringing users associated with a phone number and all their actions cryptographically signed(can't claim you did not shared/viewed something)?

You can argue if the copyright laws are good or bad but infringing these laws un-anonymously seems needlessly risky to me.

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

#23

But why would you even download files through something like Telegram? This looks like the perfect distribution network for any kind of viruses etc., so wouldn't you just be better off going through TPB or other torrent services?

Article mentions that web is just too complex and ridden with ads. Telegram is simpler. One click download.

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"issue"

Piracy is a real issue. It disrupts the money flow towards media distributors and artists, and thus weakens the economy.

It also helps spread content, like a modern version of word of mouth. Assuming every download is a lost sale is a debunked myth. I agree there's a problem, but the solution isn't prosecution but education.

Also, piracy is, most of the time, a master of convenience: Netflix/Steam have reduced pirating way more than any anti-P2P law.

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

#26
Choose any two but not all three:

- Governments can disrupt communications by child abusers, hitmen and terrorists.

- Governments can disrupt piracy, consensual online sex work and other behaviors which may be illegal but are widely regarded as benign.

- Citizens enjoy privacy of their personal communications, and can express non-mainstream political views.

Time and again it has been shown that if you clamp down on piracy, you chase users on to hidden/encrypted/anonymous platforms where they provide great cover for people doing much shadier stuff. The only equilibria are either for governments to monitor all communications by everyone ever, or for pirates and amateur pornographers to be left alone.

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

#27

> Law-abiding citizens: Please do NOT download. Thank you. I am not for piracy, but yes, let's all keep using SMS which has been compromised (and not fixed) for the last 30 years, and let's not use anything that gives us any security/privacy. All because some 0.001% of all users are stupid. Thanks but no thanks Mr theoutline.com > “Telegram is also very popular here,” a Russia-based channel owner I remember reading/w…

> I remember reading/watching in the news how Rusisa wants to outlaw Telegram, not because of piracy, but because the gov cannot spy on its people...

It is actually happing now. Telegram can be blocked even today: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=h...

Re: Telegram is the hot new source for pirated content

#28
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"issue"

Piracy is a real issue. It disrupts the money flow towards media distributors and artists, and thus weakens the economy.

I couldn't imagine how I could finish college without pirating most of the text books. Piracy gave me an opportunity to grow professionally and morally through infinite media access. Shure if your upper middle class this is an issue to you , since you can afford anything , and now you can moralize and shame people for pirating stuff, which to me, is the same as bragging of your social status. But I am not rich, and to me piracy isn't , like a choice , it is the only option.
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