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Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Post by JONBRWN »

adamqureshi wrote: post #51
jiveturkey wrote: post #39

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The download.cnet.com of the pizza world.

I spoke to the my local pizza shop in NYC. He said between grubhub, uberRush, yelp and now slice, they are eating his pizza profit margins. He said he has to deal with 3-4 software / hardware POS products for EACH service. They are sucking him dry. He can't make money BUT needs them to bring the business. Slice takes a 20% "slice" per order / of his business. Flour costs going up, he makes his own mozzerella. UberRus…

Sometimes I get upset that my favorite pizza spots in NYC are cash only and non-delivery but after reading this I’m sure the quality wouldn’t be the same if they switched.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Post by becho »

mrbombastic wrote: post #103
avree wrote: post #72

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There's plenty of tremendous pizza in San Francisco. Hell, we even have Zante's, which makes quite unique Indian Pizza. The stuff at DNA Lounge is frankly crap compared to some of what you can get from the lesser known places. With that said, we're still nowhere on the level of NYC.

Please share some, i have had a few decent slices but they are few and far between. Arinell in mission is closest I’ve gotten to an NY slice.

The only slice worth a damn in SF is Golden Boy.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Post by hangonhn »

lordnacho wrote: post #106
ardit33 wrote: post #4

Fun fact, some of the best "italian" pizzeria's in NYC are actually owned and/or run by Albanians. There is a whole generation of Albanians that moved in Italy (after the 90s), learned the trade there and eventually moved in NYC and opened their places. Fun fact number 2: A lot of greek places in NYC are actually operated by albanians. (for the same reasons as above). The main reason is marketing: People in the US kn…

A lot of Far Eastern cuisines are not made by the people you think. My parents ran a Thai/Viet mix place for a while, after having run a Chinese place. If you go to one of my favorite sushi shops in London you'll find people speaking Cantonese. I think what happens is the restaurateurs see what's popular and figure they can pass for whatever other group it is. And the food is like software, you can learn another fram…

My parents' Chinese restaurant sold sushi. The Thai restaurant in our town sold both Chinese food and sushi and was run by Laotians. In a small town like mine, Asians are pretty interchangeable and sometimes it can be to ones' advantage.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Post by Spooky23 »

JackCh wrote: post #63

Maybe I'm just out of touch, but the appeal of online pizza ordering is something I can't wrap my mind around. Calling and placing an order using the traditional telephone method seems far easier to me. I do it often, more often than I should. Furthermore it seems better for the business since presumably the phone company takes a much smaller cut of the sale than whatever web platform they may be using. Is it because…

Mostly laziness. The restaurants push it because it makes upsell easier.

Try one of the touchscreen McDonald’s order kiosks. You need to navigate many dark patterns to order anything that isn’t a meal deal.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

enraged_camel wrote: post #108
matte_black wrote: post #92

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I'm curious why he simply hasn't raised prices for orders through those platforms?

Customers tend to be insanely price sensitive when it comes to low-end food such as pizza. So you can’t just raise prices because there is a certain limit to what people will be willing to pay before they decide to get pizza from one of the five other pizzarias on that street.

> Customers tend to be insanely price sensitive when it comes to low-end food such as pizza

Then he’s in the wrong market or marketing his product wrong. Lots of cities put a premium on well-made pizza over cheap, “I’m drunk” pizza.

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Post by heurist »

dfsegoat wrote: post #86
ShabbosGoy wrote: post #64

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Which will inevitably lead him to use poorer quality ingredients in order to survive. 3-4 POS is ridiculous for a small business. Why hasn’t this been solved yet?

Venturing to guess / IMO: Seems risky for a startup "integrator" (hypothetical company who would solve this) to have their business depend on providing specific integrations per startup + POS system. You would need to keep tabs on any changes ea. of the companies like Slice, GrubHub etc. made from both a service standpoint, and a hardware standpoint, right? To top it off, it would just be one more layer ontop of this…

Sounds like a FOSS problem.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Post by JackCh »

nxc18 wrote: post #68
JackCh wrote: post #63

Maybe I'm just out of touch, but the appeal of online pizza ordering is something I can't wrap my mind around. Calling and placing an order using the traditional telephone method seems far easier to me. I do it often, more often than I should. Furthermore it seems better for the business since presumably the phone company takes a much smaller cut of the sale than whatever web platform they may be using. Is it because…

1) having to talk over the other restaurant staff; receiver can't hear you. 2) reading my credit card number over the phone 3) explaining the details of the order. The human always messes it up. 4) getting surprised by the cost, or having to calculate the cost for all the items ahead of time. I'd rather negotiate my order with a machine in the privacy of my own home than with a person on the phone.

I see. I typically pay with cash, however whenever my trip to an ATM is overdue I pay with credit and they have my number (and delivery address, and typical pizza order) on file, correlated with my phone number. The pizzeria I most frequently order from is a loud bar and I hear the din of the bar noise in the background quite clearly, but I've never had to repeat myself when talking with them over the phone.

Often times I can order a pizza over the phone using nothing more than three words "yes ... yes ... yes", in response to the questions "are you still at [address]", "same order as last time?", "cash?". Certainly a website can remember such details as well, but poking around at a webpage that remembers such details isn't nearly as straight forward in my mind as simply talking to a person for a few seconds.

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Post by ahi »

lordnacho wrote: post #97
sneak wrote: post #81

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That sounds like a self-created disadvantage of underpaying in a global talent market, rather than an issue with their city.

Yeah my thought as well. You'd think with a huge business like Domino's you could afford to pay quite a few devs top dollar. Perhaps it's the fact that Detroit is not known as a nice place to live that's the problem?

Their HQ is actually in Ann Arbor which is nice so long as you don't want big city accoutrements. Pay isn't terrible especially considering cost of living. As far as I can tell their recruiting problem is how many people want to work for pizza corp?

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Post by ardit33 »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #95
benatkin wrote: post #29

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In SF the only pizza place I ate at over a six-month period was owned by jwz, and the only pizza slices I ate were vegan ones. I'm not vegan, but I'm slightly lactose intolerant (or something). I think that pizza is probably a blind spot for many SF/SV startup people. Not surprised this startup is based in NYC. Is there an avocado toast startup? Edit: come to think of it I had vegan pizza in NYC a year and a half ago…

> I think that pizza is probably a blind spot for many SF/SV startup people. Not surprised this startup is based in NYC. Really? I found New York pizza to be pretty mediocre in general (Joe's on Bleecker is pretty good if you're okay with burnt dough). DNA Lounge's pizza is not known to be great though. Out here, Patxi's does a good deep dish vegan pie, and there are plenty of places to get a good New York style slic…

wut? I lived 7 years in SF, and 5 in NYC, and there is no comparison.

SF has good deep dish (Little Cesar and Paxtis), and maybe one good true Italian/wood/brick pizza in Northern Beach but that's it.

In NYC you have good pizza every other block (as well as crappy $1, or $2/slice type of places ). Once you try few places, you find which ones are good/legit, and stick with them, and avoid the crappy ones.

For pizza and bagels there is just no comparison between the two places.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Post by lordnacho »

ahi wrote: post #118
lordnacho wrote: post #97

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Yeah my thought as well. You'd think with a huge business like Domino's you could afford to pay quite a few devs top dollar. Perhaps it's the fact that Detroit is not known as a nice place to live that's the problem?

Their HQ is actually in Ann Arbor which is nice so long as you don't want big city accoutrements. Pay isn't terrible especially considering cost of living. As far as I can tell their recruiting problem is how many people want to work for pizza corp?

Plus if you get fired or don't like it, how many other employers are there? If you're in SV or NYC, endless.

I get that certain types of firms just don't sound like they have interesting work though.

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