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Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Fun fact, some of the best "italian" pizzeria's in NYC are actually owned and/or run by Albanians. There is a whole generation of Albanians that moved in Italy (after the 90s), learned the trade there and eventually moved in NYC and opened their places. Fun fact number 2: A lot of greek places in NYC are actually operated by albanians. (for the same reasons as above). The main reason is marketing: People in the US kn…

The other reason is that the Italians and Greeks that were running those restaurants made a lot of money and their kids (next gen) went off to college. Having noone to operate those stores, they had to sell or find people that would operate them.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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The download.cnet.com of the pizza world.

I spoke to the my local pizza shop in NYC. He said between grubhub, uberRush, yelp and now slice, they are eating his pizza profit margins. He said he has to deal with 3-4 software / hardware POS products for EACH service. They are sucking him dry. He can't make money BUT needs them to bring the business. Slice takes a 20% "slice" per order / of his business. Flour costs going up, he makes his own mozzerella. UberRus…

I'm curious why he simply hasn't raised prices for orders through those platforms?

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

#93
post #63

Maybe I'm just out of touch, but the appeal of online pizza ordering is something I can't wrap my mind around. Calling and placing an order using the traditional telephone method seems far easier to me. I do it often, more often than I should. Furthermore it seems better for the business since presumably the phone company takes a much smaller cut of the sale than whatever web platform they may be using. Is it because…

Reasons I order pizza online instead of over phone usually:

- Online only or other coupons/deals are usually displayed

- Entire restaurant menu and other sides can be perused at my leisure and selected

- When ordering for multiple people can build a shopping cart of what is wanted by all and verify it's right before confirming order

- Phone calls feel rushed to me when I call in, like 'hurry up and order'

- I don't get put on hold on the phone

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Fun fact, some of the best "italian" pizzeria's in NYC are actually owned and/or run by Albanians. There is a whole generation of Albanians that moved in Italy (after the 90s), learned the trade there and eventually moved in NYC and opened their places. Fun fact number 2: A lot of greek places in NYC are actually operated by albanians. (for the same reasons as above). The main reason is marketing: People in the US kn…

Pizza is pretty universal these days. There was one pizza place near me in college owned by an Indian family; they also sold Indian food. They didn't appreciate it when we tried to order a chicken tikka pizza, though. Another pizza place near where I used to work was run by an Irish guy, who then later sold it to a Chinese guy. Oh, and my favorite pizza place near where I used to live was run by a Dominican guy. I th…

> Pizza is pretty universal these days. There was one pizza place near me in college owned by an Indian family; they also sold Indian food. They didn't appreciate it when we tried to order a chicken tikka pizza, though.

Oh that's too bad. There are a few Indian pizza places out here. Some are mostly Indian food on pizza dough, and some have embraced the hybrid (mozz + chicken tikka masala on dough). It's a great combination.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Fun fact, some of the best "italian" pizzeria's in NYC are actually owned and/or run by Albanians. There is a whole generation of Albanians that moved in Italy (after the 90s), learned the trade there and eventually moved in NYC and opened their places. Fun fact number 2: A lot of greek places in NYC are actually operated by albanians. (for the same reasons as above). The main reason is marketing: People in the US kn…

In SF the only pizza place I ate at over a six-month period was owned by jwz, and the only pizza slices I ate were vegan ones. I'm not vegan, but I'm slightly lactose intolerant (or something). I think that pizza is probably a blind spot for many SF/SV startup people. Not surprised this startup is based in NYC. Is there an avocado toast startup? Edit: come to think of it I had vegan pizza in NYC a year and a half ago…

> I think that pizza is probably a blind spot for many SF/SV startup people. Not surprised this startup is based in NYC.

Really? I found New York pizza to be pretty mediocre in general (Joe's on Bleecker is pretty good if you're okay with burnt dough). DNA Lounge's pizza is not known to be great though. Out here, Patxi's does a good deep dish vegan pie, and there are plenty of places to get a good New York style slice.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Local pizza is more like 100x better. I couldn't even finish a slice of Dominos, at least the one I ordered from on the west side of Cleveland. I've had better frozen pizza. I don't get who's ordering it. It's not even the 'good' kind of bad, like, say McDonald's fries that one indulges in on occasion.

Chain restaurants don't succeed by being better, they succeed by being consistent. The fear of having a bad meal is much, much stronger than the desire to have an exceptional one. This - along with price - is why McDonald's in NYC is packed with tourists.

Sadly, I don’t think it’s even mostly tourists. Every McDonalds I walk by in NYC is always busy, even in parts of the city with fewer tourists.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

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Back about six years ago now, we had a new guy come on board my team at Netflix as an SRE. He had come from Dominoes. He told us stories about how Dominos saw the writing on the wall and reinvented itself as a tech company, how every step in the pizza making process had an API. He showed us command line tools that you could use to order and track your pizza, so you could set it up in cron and then have it tell you wh…

That sounds like a self-created disadvantage of underpaying in a global talent market, rather than an issue with their city.

Yeah my thought as well. You'd think with a huge business like Domino's you could afford to pay quite a few devs top dollar.

Perhaps it's the fact that Detroit is not known as a nice place to live that's the problem?

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

#98
post #38

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Absolutely the same here and I am Scottish. I will eat pretty much anything, but even with a beer in Me, I can't handle Dominos. Fake cheese, Fake chicken, Fake mushrooms (I was amazed at fake mushrooms) all put together onto a tasteless base. Gives me the boke.

> Fake cheese, Fake chicken, Fake mushrooms What exactly do you think is on their pizza?

In the UK?

Analog Cheese, Water Pumped Chicken, Ultra Hydrated mushrooms.

If I am paying 3 pound for a pizza, I expect it to be shit. If I am paying 10 pound, I expect it to be reasonable.

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

#99
post #63

Maybe I'm just out of touch, but the appeal of online pizza ordering is something I can't wrap my mind around. Calling and placing an order using the traditional telephone method seems far easier to me. I do it often, more often than I should. Furthermore it seems better for the business since presumably the phone company takes a much smaller cut of the sale than whatever web platform they may be using. Is it because…

Reasons I order pizza online instead of over phone usually: - Online only or other coupons/deals are usually displayed - Entire restaurant menu and other sides can be perused at my leisure and selected - When ordering for multiple people can build a shopping cart of what is wanted by all and verify it's right before confirming order - Phone calls feel rushed to me when I call in, like 'hurry up and order' - I don't g…

I agree with all of this, and I’ll add four more:

- fewer worries order will be put in wrong

- sometimes have a hard time understanding, due to noise, accents, bad connection

- sometimes in an environment where I need to be quiet

- just don’t like the phone

Re: Tech Startup Slice Helps Local Pizzerias Get Online

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spoke to the my local pizza shop in NYC. He said between grubhub, uberRush, yelp and now slice, they are eating his pizza profit margins. He said he has to deal with 3-4 software / hardware POS products for EACH service. They are sucking him dry. He can't make money BUT needs them to bring the business. Slice takes a 20% "slice" per order / of his business. Flour costs going up, he makes his own mozzerella. UberRus…

>UberRush takes 33%. // Man, that is terrible. This is a major problem with capitalism, the optimisation doesn't work when it gets corrupted with marketing - in theory these frontends would compete until they were making practically nothing above their costs, in practice the one(s) with the most capital behind them (or best marketing department) will win and leech the money away from the producers and to the people w…

Delivery is a cost.
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