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Mark Zuckerberg testifies before Congress
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
The way Cambridge Analytica's got its data was a little nefarious...as I understand it, they obtained data through ways Facebook discouraged (but still enabled). Whether you consider that an 'exploit' or not is subjective. It's certainly not an 'exploit' in the more common infosec sense. But the real issue here is that Facebook was complicit in electing Donald Trump. It's political.
>But the real issue here is that Facebook was complicit in electing Donald Trump. It's political. This bit is really terrifying to me. I don't support Trump, but the idea that we're going to make it even harder for "unapproved" political candidates should make everyone's skin crawl.
I'm okay with it when the political candidate is as objectively bad as Donald Trump
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#203Some poor Senator just went on a rabbit hunt to discuss FB's bug bounty program. Who are these Congressional staffers?
Tech illiteracy is on full-display; we're not even talking 'power-users' (who were on UseNet, btw), these people are lost. Zuckerberg had to be gracious and say his team would follow-up on many things that it was clear the Senator didn't even understand. This is supposed to be our smart chamber.
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#204Mark Zuckerberg does not believe he has a monopoly. He believes there is an alternative to Facebook in the way that different car manufacturers have different competitors. Surely he can't mean this, right?
> Mark Zuckerberg does not believe he has a monopoly. I tend to agree with him. Facebook just happens to be the most popular Internet social network, right now , but there is nothing that makes it a monopoly. Anyone could replace it, there is nothing actively stopping them from doing so. I'm sure for decades the Ford Motor Company was thought of as a Monopoly... and then they went bankrupt, and that's just one compan…
>> Mark Zuckerberg does not believe he has a monopoly.
> I tend to agree with him. Facebook just happens to be the most popular Internet social network, right now
And it will remain the most popular one as long as it's allowed to continue buy the up and coming ones. People are fleeing Facebook for Instagram.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are there are job offers on Facebook? (That's a genuine question; I don't have an account.) Perhaps some service providers are only (or primarily) contactable for complaints via Facebook (and maybe Twitter and a couple of others), and therefore to contact them you need an account with one of those companies. So perhaps to participate in society without a disadvantage, you need an account with Facebook Inc, or at leas…
> Are there are job offers on Facebook? (That's a genuine question; I don't have an account.) IIRC, they're trying to become the blue collar linkedin. https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/28/facebook-job-posts/
Hahaha, I can't even begin to wonder how bad that experience will be considering how awful marketplace is.
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's almost a completely biased question. Objectively: who engages in hate speech? The far right. The far left may be overly accepting of everything, let's say.. they are not the ones engaging in hate speech. So it's no surprise that far right pages would be banned way more often than far left pages.
I think a certain part of the far left can engage in hate speech against those who they view as intolerant of other's cultures or lifestyles (e.g. transgendered issues), and/or those who say things which they deem offensive (e.g. pronouns, triggering, rights movements, gender identity vs biology).
At the risk of stepping on a landmine given the thread above, consider using 'transgender' or 'trans' instead of 'transgenedered'. The two are subtly different, but that difference is important to some trans people.
Transgendered implies something happened to someone, rather than transgender, which is an attribute someone has. Many trans people consider the transgendered offensive, e.g. "No one/No thing transgendered me, I was always this way. It's who I am."
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#208"What a story, only in America right?" [About facebook's origin] Zuck: "Well, senator there are big Chinese internet compani.." "The answer is yes, you're supposed to say yes". So much about China. Only in America. The answer is mandatory, it's "Yes".
Didn't see the video, was the senator jesting or was he actually offended? (I suppose it's the former but you never know)
It was a joke, and everyone was laughing. Biggest audience response of the testimony.
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#209MZ: "You control and own the content you post on Facebook" Something seems just a tad bit disingenuous about this.
Yes and the congressman totally let the line of questioning go on that response. The problem seems to be that (1) many of the congressman are just too unfamiliar to pry at Zuck's bad answers and (2) 5 minutes just isn't long enough to build up a damning line of questions.
Isn't this a two day hearing? Maybe they can consult with their aides who actually understand this and pick at the bad answers tomorrow.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I do not have the facebook app on my phone. I downloaded Instagram and it magically knew one of my email addresses (not the one used with my facebook account). I deleted it, mashed the keyboard for the new email address, declined syncing contacts, blocked the permission as well as every other permission, and lo and behold it still shows all of my facebook friends on instagram as suggestions. Fucking creepy.
Even if Facebook doesn't get the data through you, it still gets your data from people you know.
It was people who don't have my phone number or any other information including people who I am not friends with and only messaged once from a buy/sell group.
I am guessing because I used the app at some point on my phone it fingerprinted it, then Instagram goes and fingerprints it when you install and links your account even when you decline to do so.