Sex workers fear violence as US cracks down on online ads: 'Girls will die'

Post by dragonwriter » Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 9:38 PM UTC

skookumchuck wrote: post #32

dilap wrote: post #25

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it's also just an absurd restriction from a perspective that values individual liberty. "my body, my choice" "consenting adults" -- all that goes out the window when it's sex for cash? it makes no sense.

Governmental attempts to suppress "immoral" but natural human behavior has been tried for thousands of years and has never worked. I.e. attempts to stop: * drinking * gambling * prostitution * drugs * adultery * homosexuality * lending money * black markets

Post by lovich » Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 9:43 PM UTC

pyre wrote: post #114

djsumdog wrote: post #63

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Why do we take sex so seriously? What's wrong with trivializing it? We don't make a big deal about kissing, or playing golf? Animals often fuck without consent (although most other mammals have mating sessions that last less than 15 seconds). There is a really interesting dynamic in humans where we have either evolved or socially constructed (or both) this very strong sense of importance (and also shame) around sex.…

> Animals often fuck without consent (although most other mammals have mating sessions that last less than 15 seconds). ... are you advocating non-consensual sex should be legal?[1] I don't think so, but I'm not really sure how "animals have non-consensual sex" really supports anything related to this argument. [1] To be clear, there are people on various places on Reddit that do advocate for non-consensual sex to be…

Post by ocdtrekkie » Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 10:12 PM UTC

guelo wrote: post #178

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #94

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I vehemently disagree with the rhetoric of the tech companies that holding them legally responsible for willful participation in criminal activity will "kill user-generated content".

Your "the tech companies" is a tell to where the problem lies. In your world only well funded tech companies that can pay for a team of moderators or a team of expensive engineers to develop AI filters will be able to host user generated content. But a lot of times innovation comes from small unfunded individuals.

Post by skookumchuck » Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 10:42 PM UTC

nfoz wrote: post #89

skookumchuck wrote: post #32

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Governmental attempts to suppress "immoral" but natural human behavior has been tried for thousands of years and has never worked. I.e. attempts to stop: * drinking * gambling * prostitution * drugs * adultery * homosexuality * lending money * black markets

"has never worked"? Sounds like you're setting a hard metric. I'm pretty sure that changing laws does have some influence on the social norms and culture around some of these items, and their level of consumption. The propents of some of these rules might call it a success even if it just changes behaviours or attitudes about them.

Post by skookumchuck » Tue, Apr 10, 2018, 10:50 PM UTC

Anon1096 wrote: post #102

skookumchuck wrote: post #32

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Governmental attempts to suppress "immoral" but natural human behavior has been tried for thousands of years and has never worked. I.e. attempts to stop: * drinking * gambling * prostitution * drugs * adultery * homosexuality * lending money * black markets

I mean, if you limit your view to what the government is trying to suppress to those narrow categories then I guess you're right. But one area that government enforcement of morality has resoundingly worked is child porn. It's very hard for a normal person to find it and I for one am glad the government is working hard to curb access to it.