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YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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You know what's interesting? A Decentralised media platform used to be huge and actually is still huge: Torrents. There's a huge community that consumes media that's not hosted anywhere particular and there are apps like Popcorn Time that offer viewing experience almost as good as Netflix. The problem, of course, is that up until now there was no way to reward the creators and almost all the media consumed on Torrent…

You certainly don't need blockchains and distributed databases to reward creators, centralized solutions like Patreon work perfectly fine. If you want Netflix style monetization, that is not a technical problem but a social one, Netflix relies on the concept of copyright. Any community that does not respect copyright will switch to the free alternative, leaving voluntary donations as the only monetization option. May…

The other monetization option is of course public funding of the arts which could neatly avoid the issue of copyright and make shows legal to copy.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YT wasn't very sad about stolen content when they were starting up...

They still are anything but sad about it. The amount of pirated music on their platform is mind boggling.

Look up Mickey Mouse Clubhouse on Youtube.

If you can steal from Disney, Youtube doesn't care. And no these videos are not being monetized by the creator.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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All of these "alternatives" suck. Whether you believe in censorship or not (I don't), building a no-censorship alternative to a major media platform mostly attracts the people who were censored because of truly abhorrent content. Gab and voat suck because 90% of the content is extremist bullshit. The development community needs to stop building "alternatives", with the hope that they become the next big thing, and go…

>content is extremist bullshit.

Mainly just right+ extremists. No need to beat around the bush.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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This article is pure clickbait. Make some half-assed, sensationalist, barely verifiable claim, sprinkle some crypto / blockchain / bitcoin seasoning on top, and to the moon you go.

Clickbait implies that it's devoid of real content or has a misleading title. I had never heard of DTube, Steemit or Steem before this, and the title seems accurate enough. What's the problem?

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #122

Yours.org is is my favorite example of this. Writers of articles receive Bitcoin Cash from the community. Interestingly, it costs Bitcoin Cash to upvote content and comment on things. Presumably this helps combat upvote bots and spammers. Edit: forgot to mention that if you upvote content, later upvotes of the same content earn you money. This incentivizes people to discover and promote new content they think will be…

Paying for moderation/upvotes sounds like a terrible idea to me, it basically turn all posts into "promoted posts". If the platform becomes successful what will prevent companies and lobbyists from paying to have their content at the top, always? This is already a problem with popular platforms like reddit (and to a lesser extent HN) where this is actually considered inappropriate and against the rules, I'm not sure…

> If the platform becomes successful what will prevent companies and lobbyists from paying to have their content at the top, always?

The cost?

Let's assume their content is essentially an ad that has no value to anyone on the platform. To get to the top, they'll need to outpay a whole community of people who are incentivized to upvote more interesting content.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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post #40
post #11

Roughly half of the content is about cryptocurrencies. The other half is stolen content (e.g. https://d.tube/#!/c/nba-highlights ). I don't think YT and FB are sad about losing those types of "creators".

All platforms kickstart within a niche. Remember when Facebook was just for students? Or when Bitcoin was "just for drug dealers" (it wasn't, but that's what the media got everyone to believe).

Seeing some downvotes on this but TBH Silk Road and the underground economy _is_ what originally drove the lions share of demand for bitcoin as a currency, not miners and enthusiasts - everything else ballooned out from there.

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They still are anything but sad about it. The amount of pirated music on their platform is mind boggling.

Look up Mickey Mouse Clubhouse on Youtube. If you can steal from Disney, Youtube doesn't care. And no these videos are not being monetized by the creator.

> And no these videos are not being monetized by the creator.

How do you know that?

Re: YouTube and Facebook Are Losing Creators to Blockchain-Powered Rivals

#179

All of these "alternatives" suck. Whether you believe in censorship or not (I don't), building a no-censorship alternative to a major media platform mostly attracts the people who were censored because of truly abhorrent content. Gab and voat suck because 90% of the content is extremist bullshit. The development community needs to stop building "alternatives", with the hope that they become the next big thing, and go…

>content is extremist bullshit. Mainly just right+ extremists. No need to beat around the bush.

That's only because the left+ extremists are tolerated, if not condoned, on the SV run platforms.
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