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Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

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Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

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> When paying by card you can still stick a few pounds or dollars in the sleeve. That would seem cheesy af to me. Like "Here have some money you poor thing!"

What I have been told is that they want the tips in cash to not leave a trail for tax authorities to see. If they get the tip in cash they don't report it as income, if the tip is added to the card it get registered as tip and tax have to be paid. So basically tip is not only a way to get around paying the workers a livable salary but also a way to avoid taxes

Its mainly to avoid the employer keeping the tip for them selves

Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

#342

In the UK cards moved to 'chip and pin' in 2006! Fraud in a 'customer present' scenario is very low at our stores. The last fraud in fact was a foreign card that didn't support chip and pin. I can't believe Visa and MasterCard have not made it mandatory world wide... ...except card fraud lossed are recharged to the merchant so perhaps they don't care? Out of interest there is a special exception for disabled people w…

I'm visiting London this summer (I'm from Texas). Normally, I pay for everything with American Express. Would you recommend I get a different card for London? I wonder if there's a US card that support chip and pin?

Credit cards in general are not too popular in Europe, they're either not accepted at all or only Visa and Mastercard are accepted. A Maestro debit card is your best bet and will work in almost all terminals in Europe.

Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

#343

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Personally I like tipping. I think people should still be paid well, but let me tip on top of it if I wish.

It's actually somewhat infantilizing to tip someone, unless they need it to be paid. You would never give a lawyer, consultant or someone else "respected" in society "2 dollars to buy something nice". Tipping is a very in the face sign of inequality and really needs to die (as soon as the inequality is gone of course).

It must be considered in relation to the size of the transaction; I have given gifts of bottles of wine or Scotch (and in one case, an Echo) to professional service providers who have done a notably good job.

I don’t tip a lawyer $2 on a $2000 matter, but a $75 bottle of Scotch is proportionally similar (in fact, a bit smaller) and not at all inappropriate.

Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

#346

In the UK cards moved to 'chip and pin' in 2006! Fraud in a 'customer present' scenario is very low at our stores. The last fraud in fact was a foreign card that didn't support chip and pin. I can't believe Visa and MasterCard have not made it mandatory world wide... ...except card fraud lossed are recharged to the merchant so perhaps they don't care? Out of interest there is a special exception for disabled people w…

I'm visiting London this summer (I'm from Texas). Normally, I pay for everything with American Express. Would you recommend I get a different card for London? I wonder if there's a US card that support chip and pin?

If your phone supports it, a lot of places accept Apple Pay and Android Pay now. Just set them up with your card then pay contactlessly.

Of course you still have the problem that not eveywhere takes Amex, so getting a Visa is recommended too.

Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

#347

In the UK cards moved to 'chip and pin' in 2006! Fraud in a 'customer present' scenario is very low at our stores. The last fraud in fact was a foreign card that didn't support chip and pin. I can't believe Visa and MasterCard have not made it mandatory world wide... ...except card fraud lossed are recharged to the merchant so perhaps they don't care? Out of interest there is a special exception for disabled people w…

AFAIK chip and pin shifts liability for fraud onto the credit customer. While banks may be more than eager to do so, they may also be wary of a customer backlash over this.

Not sure where this is coming from but this is definitely NOT the case in Canada or in Europe.

Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

#348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm visiting London this summer (I'm from Texas). Normally, I pay for everything with American Express. Would you recommend I get a different card for London? I wonder if there's a US card that support chip and pin?

You'll find a number of places that don't take American Express, so have an alternative with you. If you have Apple or Android Pay, that'll cover you for most purchases under £100 (under £30 in some places with outdated tech).

In some places more than that. I think my record with Android pay so far is around £180.

Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

#349

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It's because you're from out of country. You'll almost never be asked to produce ID with a standard credit card purchase in the US, unless it's unusual in amount. I'm in my late 30s and have never once been asked to produce proof of ID in relation to a standard credit card purchase. Whether at a grocery store, restaurant, etc. I've never seen anyone else have to show ID either, maybe once in the 1980s.

I write “please check ID” on the back of all my cards. I’m astonished when someone actually does check my ID. It happens maybe once or twice a year.

I do this, and I was very confused to find out that if you try to do this at some government buildings (post office for me) they will completely reject your card and not let you use it.

Re: Credit Card Signatures Are About to Become Extinct in the U.S

#350

America is so stuck in legacy tech. Nobody checks signatures. Strong Factor Authentication requires min 2 of 3. India is leapfrogging to biometrics using Aadhar. Europe is current with chip and pin. America is in quill pen stage

Chip and pin isn't current; CDCVM is. Some european countries are still lagging on that front.
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