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Why? Having insight into website traffic is hugely valuable to webmasters.
Why is it? Do you mean marketing people rather than webmasters? Won't webmasters have logs?
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> Honestly, the best thing to do if you don’t have a high percentage of EU users/customers is to simply block EU IPs. Could you please block my IP address as well: 192.117.111.61 If you feel that being responsible with my personal information and metadata is not worth the trouble, then I don't want to accidentally ever use whatever service you maintain. Thanks.
What an absurd statement. This isn’t about being able to be “irresponsible with [your] personal data”. GDPR compliance is a difficult, expensive, onerous, and uncertain endeavor. Sites that don’t rely on EU visitors for revenue don’t need to expose themselves to the additional liability that the GDPR imposes. That doesn’t mean that sites that haven’t gone to the expensive lengths required under it are going to expose…
That is a terrific idea, thank you. In fact, for sites that require providing much information (email providers, etc) I'll start doing just that. Though HN does not require much data, I will review how the site intends to deal with GDPR.
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Honestly, the best thing to do if you don’t have a high percentage of EU users/customers is to simply block EU IPs. First it was the completely useless cookie notifications, now it’s GDPR, and nobody knows what the next thing will be - we only know that there will be a next thing (there always is), and that it too will be costly and burdensome to comply with. Unless you derive a significant percentage of your revenue…
> First it was the completely useless cookie notifications It was useless in the sense it was trying to play nice. It was a gentle call for the industry to self-regulate. The only problem with that law was how naïve it was. Go ahead and block the whole European IP range. See if we care.
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So basically we create a law to protect user data and your answer is "let's only work with countries that think messing up with my users is ok" ?
It’s not about being able to “mess with [your] users”. It’s about sites that don’t need EU traffic anyway being unnecessarily exposed to fines for even accidental violations of a very complex law.
In which case would you you think it's alright for any site to not protect, say, a user home address ?
As a matter of morals/competitive edge, companies should try to keep personal data safe and perhaps not collect it at all. That said, GDPR is ridiculous and in many countries, contradictory. This leads to litigation spaghetti code. It will be exploited in ways we can't yet imagine. It is dangerous to assume GDPR applies to YOU if you are based in the US. As the world (thankfully) doesn't operate under a one-world gov…
As a Canadian, if I am also an eCitizen of Estonia, will the GDPR protect me from EU-based companies? Or do I have to actually _live_ in the EU to be protected?
GDPR articles seem to be getting some traction on HN as everyone is trying to figure out: "Do I need to do something for this? Is so, what?" For a recent project I read (and translated to plain english) [1] every single article in the GDPR legislation and for our purposes it can be summed up as: "Treat user data like names and emails as if they were credit card numbers" AKA: be paranoid about keeping them, encrypt th…
Honestly, the best thing to do if you don’t have a high percentage of EU users/customers is to simply block EU IPs. First it was the completely useless cookie notifications, now it’s GDPR, and nobody knows what the next thing will be - we only know that there will be a next thing (there always is), and that it too will be costly and burdensome to comply with. Unless you derive a significant percentage of your revenue…
I used to think protectionism was stupid, but after seeing how The Great Firewall[1] is working out for China and their services, I’m not so sure anymore. The big problem with any inbound restrictions is retaliation, but if you can manage to make a country restrict exports themseleves, well, yes please!
I’m looking forward to seeing EU competitors flourish.
[1] Since visiting China I’m convinced TGF is about protectionism as much as it is about filtering. Internet to any non-China service is terrible and unreliable. The result is simply you can’t depend on it, so you choose a Chinese provider. This has clearly worked out very well for some of their companies!
Sadly, I feel this will hurt the ones without a proper IT force the most.
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The EU has a population of over half a billion people and a GDP per capita of $41k PPP (although those numbers will shrink a little bit post-Brexit). Ignoring Europe as a potential market ignores half the western world - and it is westerners, for the most part, who have disposable income to spend money on goods and services. Ignore Europe if you like. Just be aware that you are allowing your competitors to gain an un…
There are thousands of types of sites, such as geographically focused message boards, local professionals, smaller ecommerce sites, etc. who are exposed under the GDPR but for whom EU traffic is incidental and worth nothing. A US plumber doesn’t need or want appointments in London, but is technically exposed under the GDPR. So for businesses like this, blocking EU traffic should be an easy decision - there is no down…