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Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Surface Book 2 13.5". Light, great performance, detachable, writable screen with a 180 deg viewing angle, AWESOME keyboard, best trackpad on a Windows machine, 8+ hour battery life. $1300.

I use an Ubuntu machine spun up by Vagrant for all of my development needs. The only Windows applications I use are Word, PowerPoint (consultant) and Chrome.

The next best option is probably the Thinkpad X1 Carbon, which is an awesome laptop in its own right.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Thinkpads weren't affected [source] ( https://support.lenovo.com/lu/en/product_security/superfish ). You're welcome to boycott the company, but the corporate models are protected.

One might boycott a restaurant because they don't like its political activism, labor and sourcing practices, etc. This is much simpler than that. Lenovo served poisoned food. Not as a food-safety oversight, but as a matter of policy. The fact that they only did it for some menu items is irrelevant.

Isn’t it possible the Thinkpad lines are managed by different people with different forms of corruption?

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Hey! Web dev/writer here that can relate — I've been writing about this after having gone through the same experience. In the last year, I've written about the Razer Blade, Eve V and about to ship a review of the Dell XPS 15 today or tomorrow (will post in this comment), which I ultimately settled on. It's a killer machine! I use Windows and WSL to do my work, and it's just as good as my MacBook setup ever was — exce…

Wrote about this elsewhere, but the eve v is fascinating in how one could theoretically raise the display higher up and still use the bluetooth keyboard.

http://bitcannon.net/post/a-year-away-from-mac-os/ also wrote briefly about it, and supposedly it'll run Fedora according to https://eve.community/t/summary-of-linux-and-the-eve-v-statu... .

Despite being fairly married to the mac platform I'm really curious, and honestly hope they make a larger 14-15 inch version.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One might boycott a restaurant because they don't like its political activism, labor and sourcing practices, etc. This is much simpler than that. Lenovo served poisoned food. Not as a food-safety oversight, but as a matter of policy. The fact that they only did it for some menu items is irrelevant.

Isn’t it possible the Thinkpad lines are managed by different people with different forms of corruption?

Why would we care who the individuals were/are? Corporate personhood is a two way street. If THE company full-willingly serves poison pills without tellling you, why trust them at all? It’s a damn company, who obviously feels they don’t need your trust, so fuck em.

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Friendly reminder that Lenovo made a deliberate choice to ship malware payloads to its customers from the factory [0] by preinstalling an SSL MITM proxy configuration from an adware vendor. This is not some suspicious technology with legitimate uses like Intel Management Engine. This is not concerns about the second-order implications of your voluntary uploads to Facebook and Google. It's not even an agency with a re…

Thinkpads weren't affected [source] ( https://support.lenovo.com/lu/en/product_security/superfish ). You're welcome to boycott the company, but the corporate models are protected.

They haven't done it as far as anyone knows

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Just in the process of outfitting the office with Thinkpad T480s's. Why not X1 Carbon? At first it was the MX150 option for deep learning on the go, but we decided to drop that because it was going to be a pain the ass in Linux and it's not a very good GPU anyway - better to ssh to the server (The variant in T480s is 25% slower even though it has the same model name). Now it's just the price... Not quite worth the up…

The mx150 is a piece of crap GPU. It performs at less than half the performance of a GeForce 1050 and a third of a 1050 ti (which are in the Dell XPS 15 series.) https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

Yeah and that's the 1D10 variant. The 1D12 variant in T480s is even slower.

If it wasn't for the Linux driver headaches I still might have gone for it to have another way to check if CUDA code was running properly without having to ssh to the central server.

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What version of Linux are you running where you have had zero issues, Thank you...

Fedora 27.

I also run fedora on a X230 and have full time since 19. Never an issue.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t it possible the Thinkpad lines are managed by different people with different forms of corruption?

Why would we care who the individuals were/are? Corporate personhood is a two way street. If THE company full-willingly serves poison pills without tellling you, why trust them at all? It’s a damn company, who obviously feels they don’t need your trust, so fuck em.

Because it’s not like the group of people looking to install openBSD on something is really a deciding financial block. But we sure still have a right to look for the best available hardware for us.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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As somebody who got later into macbooks, and begrudingly had to admit they were objectively superior, here's what I'd like to know about a competitor. 1. Does the screen ever flicker? 2. Has a key ever come off? 3. Does it ever fail to sleep when you close the lid 4. Would you worry if you drop it from waste height 5 times (closed, but running, onto a hard-wood floor) ? 5. Have you had any driver problems, have you e…

big +1 to this response. I got a lenovo (thinkpad x series) and it hit 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7, obviously implying 4. I tried really, really hard to like the lenovo. It just was not built good enough for every day use. It was just a piece of shit. One more very important point: If it breaks and you need support, what happens then? MBP: take it in to a nearby apple store. if not immediate fix or replacement then very rap…

I've had a problem with my thinkpad hardware once. They had a guy actually come to my house.
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