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Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I suggest looking into the Dell XPS line (both 13 or 15 models, depending on your screen size tastes). I own a 2015 Dell XPS 13 and Linux support is amazing (long battery life, the laptop does not overheat and everything works out of the box on Ubuntu). The only weak spot is the webcam location in the lower part of the screen. Another good alternative could be the Thinkpad Carbon X line, but I don't have any direct e…

I have had an XPS13 for the last three years, running Linux. Absolutely love it. At home, it is hooked up to a 27" 4k monitor. While travelling, it is very light and has reasonable battery life. The only limitation is the fixed 8GB RAM (note: the 2018 XPS13 has a 16GB model).

As the new 2018 XPS15 was announced 5 days ago [1], I'll probably trade up now to get the Nvidia GTX1050 GPU and RAM user-upgradable to 32GB.

[1] https://www.techradar.com/reviews/dell-xps-15-2018

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Anyone with experiences running the Huawei Matebook?

Yeah, I have it. Linux works great, except the function key layer and stereo sound on the built-in speakers due to the unusual audio chipset.

Performance is fantastic, the keyboard is passable, the screen looks beautiful, and build quality seems on par with my 2010 MacBook pro, and definitely better than my Lenovo Thinkpad.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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How about the touch pad? Is there any non Apple laptop where the touch pad works as well in Linux as the mbpro's in OS X?

I'm spoiled and use my mbpro without a mouse ... because I can. I'd like to switch away from Apple when I need a new laptop because of the emoji keyboard. But I'd also like to keep using the laptop without a mouse. Is that possible these days?

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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post #11

I suggest looking into the Dell XPS line (both 13 or 15 models, depending on your screen size tastes). I own a 2015 Dell XPS 13 and Linux support is amazing (long battery life, the laptop does not overheat and everything works out of the box on Ubuntu). The only weak spot is the webcam location in the lower part of the screen. Another good alternative could be the Thinkpad Carbon X line, but I don't have any direct e…

I have last year's Thinkpad X1 Carbon. Excellent Linux support (great battery life, everything works out of the box except for the fingerprint reader) and a fantastic machine. Screen is good, it's quite a bit lighter than a MacBook Pro 13" and has a good selection of ports (2 x TB-3/USB-C, 2 x USB-A, full-size HDMI). But I can't judge if it meets OP's performance requirements (it is somewhat thermally limited due to the small form factor and thinness), maybe check out the T480 / T480s instead if you need more power.

One of my colleagues has a two-year old XPS13 and is very happy with it, too. I think they're both great choices.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Very satisfied with my work Dell XPS 15, model 9560. My colleagues mostly use MBPs, and I always feel sorry for them if I have to use the latest model's keyboard. The XPS's build is rigid and it's possible to work full day with the integrated keyboard. Only downside is my model does not have the touch screen, which could be helpful if you need to run Android emulator on the laptop (as opposed to deploying to a real phone).

I am an Android developer myself and have to use Windows for corporate reasons, but with WSL the developer experience is very similar to Linux. I can see that Dell XPS 15, model 9560 with 16 GB of RAM, 512 GB SSD retails for 2100 EUR in my country. You can later expand it to 32 GB of RAM, as there is a free expansion RAM slot (nothing is enough for Gradle ...)

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I would recommend the Razor blade stealth(late 2017 edition). Price is good and build quality is awesome. Touchscreen is a plus. If you use Ubuntu then try to install Ubuntu 16 or later. Drivers: https://github.com/openrazer/openrazer Another thing to consider is the battery life. This is the weak point of this laptop. Review by Linus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TyUSf7og&t=210s

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I've switched last year to Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu, and then Fedora 27 (now also installed on my 2011 iMac).

Difference in performance when running a Linux based OS on both machines is quite noticeable, with a surprisingly much superior smooth and performante and stable Fedora 27... no glitches, and a pure GNOME experience...

My only criticism against moving away from Apple, is customer support. I bought mine in Switzerland (customer center is based in Germany). The experience was overwhelmingly inferior. There's really ZERO responsiveness from Dell when facing even the most easy problems to solve.

The response I got for complaining that I received a machine with a "Swiss" keyboard, was "that's your problem". Literally.

I'll be very happy to provide the names of the customer support representative and her Superior, if anyone from Dell is interested in picking this up.

My next machine will probably be a SlimBook (Spanish company).

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Hey! Web dev/writer here that can relate — I've been writing about this after having gone through the same experience.

In the last year, I've written about the Razer Blade, Eve V and about to ship a review of the Dell XPS 15 today or tomorrow (will post in this comment), which I ultimately settled on. It's a killer machine! I use Windows and WSL to do my work, and it's just as good as my MacBook setup ever was — except I have 32 GB of RAM _and_ a bunch of ports.

Happy to answer any questions/offer advice, I've basically tried all of them — I am extremely curious about the new Surface Book 2 15", but it's been hard to get my hands on one.

The post that started it all: https://char.gd/blog/2017/why-i-left-mac-for-windows-apple-h...

Razer Blade: https://char.gd/blog/2017/the-razer-blade-a-killer-macbook-p...

Eve V review: https://char.gd/blog/2017/a-startup-made-a-better-laptop-tha...

Replacement tooling for Windows (given how good Bash on Windows is): https://char.gd/blog/2017/essential-apps-for-switching-from-...

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