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Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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There aren't enough IPOs and companies to invest into, so the public markets are chasing anything they can get their hands on. Do these companies have value? Absolutely. Is the demand arbitrarily high because there's supply? Absolutely.

Yeah, that makes sense I suppose. I just don't see the growth path for Spotify. Yeah, they have an excellent music service, but whats next? Edit: and I as about growth, because I don't see how Spotify is currently worth 30B.

*ask

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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And I can only say that Discover Weekly and the Daily Mixes are absolutely spot-on for me.

It works great for me when I'm not experimenting. But if I listen to an album of a genre I don't normally listen to my next weeks playlist gets pretty spoiled.

You can switch to a private session if you don't want to affect your recommendations, just a heads up.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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Only in the US, Spotify is huge in Europe and other parts of the world, where Apple Music is basically unknown.

Spotify is actually small in the world. All music service subscribers combined are a mere ~110 million. Eddy Cue recent pegged the market opportunity at 2 billion.[1] And Apple Music ramping the fastest.[2] [1] https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-music-hits-38-million-subscr... [2] https://twitter.com/asymco/status/973568200616050688?ref_src...

Comparing Spotify to other streaming services, obviously.

Apple music is basically a no-show in Europe and Asia.

And those numbers are only paid subs. Spotify has a ton of free, ad-listening users.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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I'd wager that Spotify is nearing the point at which - if not already there - record labels cannot afford to revoke their license. If they can get away with it, they'll try to push some buttons, but I doubt a full confrontation. If there's any evidence against this, please let me know. I think it's interesting.

Spotify's market share is currently being attacked on both ends. Apple Music is supposedly set to surpass Spotify in number of paid subscribers this summer. Youtube has always had more free listeners than Spotify, as far as I know. It's not at all clear who the major players in the music streaming business will be five years from now, which means that all of the power remains with the owners of the music that people…

>Apple Music is supposedly set to surpass Spotify in number of paid subscribers this summer.

Where did you get this info? Look at the graph

https://www.statista.com/chart/8399/spotify-apple-music-paid...

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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It’s already happening, and it’s less of a problem than I thought it would be. Some of my playlists are 200+ tracks. A few songs go missing from time to time. I can never remember which tracks have gone, I just know something’s missing as the flow from song to song is off. It’s extremely irritating, but not enough to make me go elsewhere as I can’t see any other service not having the same problem.

In case you’re not aware, there’s a setting to show unavailable tracks greyed out in your playlist, so at least you can tell which ones are missing.

Best I can tell, this feature is only applicable if the track is not available in the region you're in, and/or for tracks that are 'local music' that haven't been syncned to the device you're playing on.

If a song is removed from Spotify entirely, it just disappears from the playlist.

I'd love to be proven wrong, however, and start to see all the tracks that have disappeared in the past!

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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I'm not quite clear on why people are choosing spotify over google play music - to me the google option is superior in UI and offerings (including ad-free youtube). Am I missing something? Is it just one runs better on iPhones or is more hip (like why people choose snapchat over instagram or something)?

Spotify has one mission: music. They do it really well. Google has a hundred hands in a hundred industries and only do a few of them very well. Google could shut their music service down for no reason at all. Spotify on the other hand has just gone all-in on ensuring they are a lasting institution. In the same light, Spotify is incentivized to crush the music app space. They need the best UI, the best discovery exper…

That’s true for most things. While everyone thought Google Drive or One Drive or Some other drive company will kill Dropbox because making syncing storage isn’t rocket science, they were wrong.

A nimble team of people focused on solving one core problem, whose entire livelihood depends on it working well, triumphs the giants.

We can assume Microsoft and Google has enough middle management that they’ll fk it up along the way for sure. Too many agendas and failure doesn’t mean much.

Therefore it’s in the best interest of giants to acquire companies that fit their mission and scale them with their marketing power. YouTube, Android, docs, are all good plays by google.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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It works great for me when I'm not experimenting. But if I listen to an album of a genre I don't normally listen to my next weeks playlist gets pretty spoiled.

You can switch to a private session if you don't want to affect your recommendations, just a heads up.

Woah. Thanks for pointing this out; never thought about that.

Re: Spotify opens on NYSE, valuing company at almost $30B

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post #349

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Read the context.

I did. The context is Spotify's back catalogue. Which includes the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Motown, et al.

They aren't saying Spotify doesn't _currently_ have those artists, they're saying that they wouldn't survive as a music streaming service _without_ them, as no one only listens to the latest and greatest, as many do with TV/Movies.

Thus, Spotify can't directly attempt to go in the same direction that Netflix did, as the other labels would see them attempting to compete and could possibly pull out, destroying any reason to use Spotify in the first place.

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