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Publishers Haven't Realized How Big a Deal GDPR Is

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Re: Publishers Haven't Realized How Big a Deal GDPR Is

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Post by Dylan16807 »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #14

GDPR articles seem to be getting some traction on HN as everyone is trying to figure out: "Do I need to do something for this? Is so, what?" For a recent project I read (and translated to plain english) [1] every single article in the GDPR legislation and for our purposes it can be summed up as: "Treat user data like names and emails as if they were credit card numbers" AKA: be paranoid about keeping them, encrypt th…

It's in some ways worse, because with credit card numbers you can and should avoid storing them at all, but if you need an email that's not an option.

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Post by briandear »

isostatic wrote: post #103
briandear wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So do American constitutional protections apply to Americans living in France? I am having a hard time understanding GDPR jurisdictional power. US citizens in France aren’t protected by the US Fair Credit Act with French banks, even when those French banks have US subisidiaries because a French company in France isn’t subject to US legal jurisdiction. Even FATCA doesn’t subject a French bank to US law — it subjects F…

> So do American constitutional protections apply to Americans living in France? I'm no expert, but I thought on the whole the constitution has nothing to do with citizens -- it's a list of rules that the US government must follow. It certainly has no hold over the German government. > This idea that EU citizens are protected worldwide is just ridiculous. EU jurisdiction doesn’t extend beyond the EU. If you, as someo…

Charges against Sklyarov were dropped due to jurisdiction. Your example proved my point. And actually he DID visit the US; that’s where he was arrested.

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Post by kasey_junk »

ryandrake wrote: post #212
Silhouette wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately even if you're already handling personal data responsibly, the GDPR still also requires that you be able to provide various documented policies to your regulator on demand, still contains lots of ambiguity about how far subject rights can go in practice, still imposes obligations to include lots of extra detail in privacy policies or otherwise provide lots of information and active warnings to data subj…

How about, “Our documented policy is to not collect personal information from users at all.” Assuming it’s true, wouldn’t that be compliant?

GDPR also expands what is personal data to include things that are collected as a matter of course such as IP address.

You likely have a reason to log that data but GDPR requires that you document it.

Further it reaches into your business even if you aren’t trying to do business in the EU, as EU citizens can come to your site without your control.

There is a lot to like with GDPR but it absolutely is expansive & easy to have many interpretations.

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Post by lossolo »

bklaasen wrote: post #203
lossolo wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is only one "eastern europe" country that is really Putin friendly and it's Hungary, the rest is anti Putin.

Many urban, educated folks in Serbia see Putin as a better ally than any European leader.

I think you could find a lot of pro Putin people in EU. Some of my family members are pro Putin while I live in probably the most anti-Putin country in EU. I could elaborate more about reasons for that but I don't want to digress too much from original discussion.

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Post by donohoe »

mlinksva wrote: post #3

> Today, for instance, we see that a majority of people who install an ad blocker don't actually do it to block ads (that's just an added bonus). They are actually doing it to block tracking. Is there any evidence for this at all?

Yes. I’ve seen private studies on this. However it’s not the primary use-case BUT it’s still a significant enough reason.

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Post by knoke »

return0 wrote: post #182
asadkn wrote: post #166

Thanks EU, we'll have more popups than ever that everyone's going to agree out of habit. It's not fun seeing a popup on every site you visit. This should have been a brower-based implementation globally that every site must adhere to. Even worse for me, I browse exclusively in private/incognito mode and this is going to make that unusable with consent popups on sites on every visit.

> This should have been a brower-based implementation globally that every site must adhere to. This. if EU actually cared enough, they 'd go to the browser vendors to enforce some basic prompts on tracking and forms, and it would be better than gdpr because it would work for everyone from day 1. This law will bring a few more prompts and not much else (because most services can be provided with slight changes like ha…

That's exactly one of the things that might happen with the ePrivacy Regulation: "By centralising the consent in software such as internet browsers and prompting users to choose their privacy settings and expanding the exceptions to the cookie consent rule, a significant proportion of businesses would be able to do away with cookie banners and notices, thus leading to potentially significant cost savings and simplification."

http://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/dae/document.cfm?doc_id=41241

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Post by [deleted] »

mr_toad wrote: post #185
MarkMc wrote: post #165

It seems to me that GDPR restricts economic growth. For example, I'd be quite happy to let my local supermarket sell my personal data to Google in exchange for a 3% discount on my grocery prices. Everone would benefit: (1) The supermarket gets an additional source of revenue; (2) Google can charge more for ads; (3) The toothpaste company gets better return on it's advertising; (4) I pay less for my groceries. GDPR pr…

Advertising produces nothing. It doesn’t increase your income, you can’t buy more because of it (especially, if like most people you’re already up to your eyeballs in debt). It just chages what you spend money on. Advertising doesn’t help manufacturers make more or better goods. It just helps them sell them at the expense of others. Advertising is a deadweight loss, a competition between sellers that leaves them all…

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Post by donohoe »

donohoe wrote: post #225
mlinksva wrote: post #3

> Today, for instance, we see that a majority of people who install an ad blocker don't actually do it to block ads (that's just an added bonus). They are actually doing it to block tracking. Is there any evidence for this at all?

Yes. I’ve seen private studies on this. However it’s not the primary use-case BUT it’s still a significant enough reason.

I should note another (statistically) significant but smaller reason is to reduce bandwidth.

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Post by sadturnip »

I am coming to the whole GDPR party really late (very recent startup).

For example we use Auth0 for our authentication service. Auth0 doesn't support storing everything. So we use the auth0 user id in a db table, which contains some user preferences.

Does that mean i need to get consent from the user to use their user id? In our database even though they are paying for this service, and we are paying for their auth0 user account?

Also if someone were to submit a GDPR request, how am i supposed to verify this person is who they claim to be?

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