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Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I am a person who joined the Windows team at Microsoft in early 90s. So I am as far from am Apple fanboy as you get. So believe me when I say there is NO alternative to the MBP if the touchpad is critical to your usage. If your dont care about the touchpad then there are many

But if one wants a keyboard that's usable one has to steer away from the latest MBPs :/

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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X1 Carbon is quite nice. I'm not sure if it has the performance you want. You should check out the specs. If the specs are good enough, give the machine a try. It's amazing.

If performance is a primary criterion, why get a U-suffix processor? The X1 Carbon is about thin and light.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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+1 for a ThinkPad. I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on an x230 that I purchased for $200 and it works great for me for limited dev work. I'm thinking about purchasing a new one with maxed out specs and it seems like Ubuntu/Debian support is pretty solid on the new models, with some exceptions of course. The p51s looks like a good compromise between power and portability for me. edit: And the keyboard is amazing! you'll love…

We have been buying the P51 for our engineering and accounting staff. They are a great size, nice keyboard and screen and everything. We run Windows 10 on them, so I don't know how they fare with Linux. There have been issues with Lenovo pushing driver updates and goofy stuff like that, and the USB-C dock is next to useless (but I don't think that is specific to Lenovo) We ended up just buying the regular docks (the…

Thanks for the data-point. Everyone seems to like the build quality, which is more important to me than ease of use with Linux. I figure I'm going to have to roll up my sleeves to get it working the way I want, anyways.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I know someone's going to mention it but I have the Dell XPS 13. Mine's a 16GB spec with a 512GB SSD, and honestly it's more or less perfect.

I have mine dual-booted, Windows 10 and Arch Linux. Windows is great for gaming and Netflix and Arch has great support for the XPS 13.

The only laptop that I would recommend.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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The Lenovo X1 Carbon is great and the Costco deal mentioned below made me really think about it, but 1080p screen is just not great these days and really constrains working screen real estate. Have you considered Google Pixelbook? 16GB RAM, 512GB drive, 7th gen i7 and a beautiful design for ~$1700. I’ve used crouton on an older Pixel and loved it.

For ChromeOS / Pixelbook, keep an eye on Crostini as well[0][1][2]. It looks to allow running Ubuntu (or anything it seems) as a container in stock ChromeOS. Also looks like it may have gotten graphical support recently[3]. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/PixelBook/comments/7zxz57/howto_boo... [1] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform/crosvm... [2] https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/platform2/+…

Your 3rd link is most relevant here as it shows Android Studio that OP stated is a must.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

With frequent bad reports regarding windows hardware, what’s the hardware to run wsl? I really did not like my experience with the XPS13

Wsl is no virtualization it is more like docker. Therefore, you do not need a extra beefy system to handle wsl.

It's more like Wine

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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Hey! Web dev/writer here that can relate — I've been writing about this after having gone through the same experience. In the last year, I've written about the Razer Blade, Eve V and about to ship a review of the Dell XPS 15 today or tomorrow (will post in this comment), which I ultimately settled on. It's a killer machine! I use Windows and WSL to do my work, and it's just as good as my MacBook setup ever was — exce…

Thanks for the write-up, I’ve been curious about that machine amid my Apple frustrations. However, you mention a lack of quad-core i7 cpus in the MBP but that’s not true. My 2013 is a quad core and they have been quad core in the 15” ever since.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I'm running on a Dell Inspiron 7000 2-in-1 here. It's running circles around my (relatively recent) MacBook Pro, even considering the 1TB SSD on the MacBookPro and no SSD on the Dell (yet). Running Ubuntu 17.10 - it's working decent. keyboard takes a bit of getting used to though, having home/end/pgup/pgdn only through function+key is a bit of a curve. I prefer full keyboards.

I'm also on a Inspiron 7000. My only complaint is the keyboard. No real Home/End/Page Up/Page Down really sucks, but you get used to it.

When I'm on my desk I use an external keyboard anyway.

Besides that, good performance and build quality, good screen, relatively lightweight and great battery life.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I recent got a 15 inch Dell Precision. I’m running a recent Ubuntu. I don’t recommend. It constantly throttles the CPI. I get lots of PCIe recoverable errors. The USB bus runs out of available throughout. Plugging anything Displaylink is a disaster. The camera/microphone is below the screen, which sucks more than I expected. It takes 2 hands to open the laptop. It is possible to plug in the power supply such that com…

I own a dell xps 15. Same, i don't recommand it. Autonomy is abysmal, usbc support very poor, the bios took a year to be stable and the sound died after some months. Not worth the price tag. Mind you, the xps 13 doesn't seem to have the same problems. I still love my old samsung 9 serie and wish the brand would have worked out the quirks and made a new one. My next try will be a thinkpad carbon since every owner arou…

This was also my experience with the XPS15. Took a lot of struggle just for really basic hardware to start working properly on the ubuntu side, also extremely painful to install ubuntu itself and to have it recognize the XPS15's touchpad.

I would not spend 1400$ and 10-20 hours to configure the damn thing again, do not recommend.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any reasonable alternatives to MacBook Pro for developer?

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I went through this last year. I looked at Macbook Pro, Dell XPS15 and Thinkpad T470P. In the end I went for the T470P (i7-7700HQ (4 core/8 thread) w/ 2560x1440 screen, 16GB of RAM (upgraded myself to 32GB)) and the bigger battery (pretty much no optional with a 35W TDP processor). I tried the XPS15 but the keyboard was bad and the fit and finish wasn't awesome. I've had zero issues with linux support or the machine…

> I ruled out the Macbook Pro on price and the fact I couldn't put 32GB of RAM into it.

Just curious, how has 32 GB ram on it affected battery life?

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