Is there any data on what is driving this? How much of this is due to the cost to rent? Is California a homeless destination due to climate and general tolerance to homeless camps...etc?
California is definitely a destination for homeless people due to climate and tolerance. There is a practice known as Greyhound Therapy where many cities around the country put mentally ill people on a bus and just ship them off to be someone else’s problem. Many times they pick California because they know that the homeless person would be better off there.
This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
Here's the part I don't buy. She says Irvine is made up of 45% Asians, but the protesters are mainly immigrants. Unless all 45% are first-generations, then what she said doesn't add up. She uses the word immigrant only twice in the article, near the top, with little proof backing her statement. Those that she interview have Asian names, but that doesn't mean they are immigrants. By using the word immigrant, she made…
You are absolutely correct.
No one (Asian or not, immigrant or not, Irvine or elsewhere) wants homeless moved into their neighborhood.
This really is a regional problem. I live around the area, near the beautiful Santa Ana trail which connects two counties to the ocean. A few months ago, I rode down the 40-mile stretch for the first time in a long time, and I was absolutely shocked to see the extent of the tent city near the Anaheim Angels stadium. The people living there were living on hard times, it felt post-apocalyptic in some sense. The tent ar…
I think if you were living in limbo, you'd be pretty zombie-like. Regardless of drugs or mental health.
> a dentist with offices in Irvine and Orange, said he paid about $5,000 to sponsor seven buses… I understand this dentist wanted to protect his neighborhood in his mind, but it's really sad if he's not donating any money to actually help the homeless.
You're correct, and all those thousands of people in Irvine whom are demonstrating are wealthy enough that a meager donation from most of them could've settled the problem in its entirety by building a local shelter or two.
Meanwhile, the people here who have no clue about the homeless problem being exacerbated by these same unthinking people just downvote you and demonstrate their own lack of critical thought.
This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
Here's the part I don't buy. She says Irvine is made up of 45% Asians, but the protesters are mainly immigrants. Unless all 45% are first-generations, then what she said doesn't add up. She uses the word immigrant only twice in the article, near the top, with little proof backing her statement. Those that she interview have Asian names, but that doesn't mean they are immigrants. By using the word immigrant, she made…
It's a trend in the media, that everything is framed as A vs. B. Whether that's immigrant status, race, color, religion, sex, it's all done to create a division, pander to one side or the other, and get viewers.
This is very similar the stories one hears regarding NIMBYism in the Silicon Valley. Hard working, successful immigrants seem to subscribe the just world hypothesis, exactly as one might predict. Their tolerance for those who aren’t able to do the same is pretty low from what I’ve seen. If they can come here poor and in a generation become millionaires and buy a home in California of all places, then why can’t everyo…
FWIW, there is a ton of affordable housing initiatives in Irvine, but the demand is greater yet.
This really is a regional problem. I live around the area, near the beautiful Santa Ana trail which connects two counties to the ocean. A few months ago, I rode down the 40-mile stretch for the first time in a long time, and I was absolutely shocked to see the extent of the tent city near the Anaheim Angels stadium. The people living there were living on hard times, it felt post-apocalyptic in some sense. The tent ar…
So as someone said: if city X has a problem, they fix the problem by evicting the people, the people move to my city (city Y). Why should we (city Y) have to deal with it? Just evict them like city X did.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander..
Is there any data on what is driving this? How much of this is due to the cost to rent? Is California a homeless destination due to climate and general tolerance to homeless camps...etc?
ACLU lawsuits against LAPD and other entities have provided legal framework for living on sidewalks and public parks (judge’s opinion ruled that sit-and-lie ordinance is likely unconstitutional), pitching up tents on public property, like sidewalks (by ruling that any regulation that prevents that in 100+ degrees LA summer constitutes cruel and unusual punishment).
Prop 57 also removed legal framework for prosecuting casual drug trade, so LAPD basically stopped making drug-related arrests in Skid Row, as the culprits just get a misdemeanor charge.