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YouTube Kids Is Going to Release a Whitelisted, Non-Algorithmic Version of App

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#61
The bad parts of the internet has become too easily accessible, the greed of the 21th century is abusing childrens brains. That's what i can agree with, but employing first class espionage on your kids isn't nice either. It'll remove all trust between them and you, and they'll probably get used to it and not question spying governments and compaies either.

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#62

TIL there is a YouTube kids service/app. Which I can’t use because of my IP-address. Again. I guess for us outside the US we’ll just have to wait another 5 years for google to flip the switch to make this worldwide. Again. At stuff like, Google really systematically sucks.

In this particular case, they will probably need local curators everywhere not just because of language but also because of what is considered safe for kids given the culture. So yes, it will probably take some time but I think that is understandable. After all, what's stopping someone in your (or my) country from making such a service themselves, even using Youtubes content?

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#63
Who do you trust to decide what your kid should be able to see?

Human editorial is certainly better than algorithm editorial, and YouTube Kids was a nightmare so I'm not complaining, but I'm sure the value judgements of a lot of respectable YouTube employees are very different to mine.

Are Christian and Islamic and Scientologist morality tales all acceptable or not? What about science and engineering videos with high safety requirements, or even history?

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#64

One step closer to the only thing I ever wanted, an app that lets me whitelist the channels. Without having to create an account too. The list will be small enough to store locally and pass with every list request. I never want to see another video about colors wrapped in bible verses for the rest of my life.

Same, I'm interested in Programming, Chess, History and Engineering.

YouTube recommends "Secret Alien Spaceship you didn't know about" or some equally inane bullshit.

It's so bad I used ublock origin to just filter out that entire vertical section.

The recommendations are simply useless to an end user.

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#65

One step closer to the only thing I ever wanted, an app that lets me whitelist the channels. Without having to create an account too. The list will be small enough to store locally and pass with every list request. I never want to see another video about colors wrapped in bible verses for the rest of my life.

Me too! YT Kids sucks in blacklisting and I don’t understand why can’t the parents whitelist some channels.

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#66
post #59

TIL there is a YouTube kids service/app. Which I can’t use because of my IP-address. Again. I guess for us outside the US we’ll just have to wait another 5 years for google to flip the switch to make this worldwide. Again. At stuff like, Google really systematically sucks.

I would really like the option of paying for YT Red. But nope. So yeah. Frustrating.

I’m in the same situation here.

Re: YouTube Kids Is Going to Release a Whitelisted, Non-Algorithmic Version of App

#67

Wow, a whitelisted, non-algorithmic feed of videos! Oh wait, do you mean... a playlist?

Is there a playlist of channels? Or a playlist of playlists? my kid love the idea that she is deciding which video she sees and apparently she prefers the creepy channels.

If there is a way to create that whitelisting I would happily pay. If there was a Foss alternative I would happily join.

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#68

TIL there is a YouTube kids service/app. Which I can’t use because of my IP-address. Again. I guess for us outside the US we’ll just have to wait another 5 years for google to flip the switch to make this worldwide. Again. At stuff like, Google really systematically sucks.

In this particular case, they will probably need local curators everywhere not just because of language but also because of what is considered safe for kids given the culture. So yes, it will probably take some time but I think that is understandable. After all, what's stopping someone in your (or my) country from making such a service themselves, even using Youtubes content?

Why can't the parents decide if the curation is good enough? Why is a complete hard lockout with no choice "understandable"?

Re: YouTube Kids Is Going to Release a Whitelisted, Non-Algorithmic Version of App

#69
"Non-algorithmic"? It seems like the word algorithm is being bleached to the point of meaningless. I even saw a social media type service (I forget what) advertise it's self as having "no algorithms".

Feels a bit like people being scared of "chemicals in their food".

I hope we don't get to the point where "algorithm" has only a narrow popular denotation and only negative connotation.

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#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know of any apps that do this exactly, so maybe if you want to stay within YouTube you could try restricting to a playlist. But that still has the possibility of random videos playing at some point. I've also been looking for something that allows me to loop videos, although that's more for creating a TV-channel like loop for my grandparents. To be safe in this situation I'd just use something like youtube-dl…

That was my conclusion as well. I didn't get fancy about setting cronjobs. I just run a script every now and then, and it is enough for my case. I'm still looking for a good player that would behave somewhat like Youtube Kids (auto play, fullscreen, no volume/brightness controls). All players I've tried have controls that kids don't understand and, accidentally or intentionally, end up ruining everything.

For what platform? On Android, MX Player has a lock functionality, and a Kids Lock plugin (makes a bit harder to unlock).
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