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Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Post by MBCook »

jdtang13 wrote: post #69
MBCook wrote: post #56

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I don’t think it was developed for Zuck in the last few days. I imagine it’s always been there but they never planned to turn it on for normal users. Just a secret ability for some insiders. Now that people know, it’s a “feature we’re developing” instead of an internal tool/ability.

I'm not saying it was developed for Zuck in the last few days. Yeah, I think it was definitely an internal tool or secret ability before. But one could easily imagine that they really were going to roll it out to public users sometime -- and now they're rolling it out earlier to save some face.

It could easily have been used to help clean up after harassment or illegal material was sent between user. Can’t leave that sitting there.

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Post by sAbakumoff »

Questions I have: what's the number of Mark's messages that have been deleted before upcoming Congressional hearings? Is it greater or less than those 33K emails that Hillary Clinton has deleted after getting the subpoena? Does Mark understand that after uncovering this story his career is most likely ruined forever?

Re: Facebook will add “unsend” feature after secretly deleting Zuckerberg’s messages

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Post by davesque »

matuszeg wrote: post #102
davesque wrote: post #87

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Isn't that the entire point of the Right to be Forgotten? To say that there is such a right is to say that it's incorrect to expect that you could know a person's "true nature" just by seeing what they happened to think at any given time in their lives.

I agree one event does not summarize an individual. But if you can choose what is remembered and what is not you can pick and choose the data others use to determine who you are. If someone goes on a racist tirade on Facebook, yea that does not automatically make them a racist, but its a very good data point that people who meet that person should be able to reference. I believe the sentiment of the Right to be Forgo…

I disagree. This right was a natural guarantee until the internet became ubiquitous about 20 years ago. Human society evolved for a long time under the assumption that people are free to think out loud a bit or even openly express anger on occasion and then change their mind later. Isn't it possible that making that harder to do will lead to even more incorrect and entrenched viewpoints? I don't think it's just about con artists.

Maybe another approach to all this could be that, once you post, you can delete for a while shortly thereafter. But then your post goes into a period of extended residence on a site. Perhaps a year or something. After that residency period has expired, you're free to delete the post.

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Post by matte_black »

mcast wrote: post #110
lucb1e wrote: post #74

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You can see if they send anything via ajax... this would be easy to detect.

It would be trivial to store data in the browser's local storage and hijack a "real" HTTP POST with this data. The front-end logic would need to be obfuscated far enough to deter anyone from trying to step through the Javascript to find it. But no, HN doesn't do this, only companies like Facebook or Twitter would stand to gain from that information (e.g. a shooter almost tweets his plan to attack but doesn't post it)…

> It would be trivial to store data in the browser's local storage and hijack a "real" HTTP POST with this data. The front-end logic would need to be obfuscated far enough to deter anyone from trying to step through the Javascript to find it.

Hmm, I think I’ll write a library to do something like this, I just need a cool clever name for it.

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Post by mcast »

matte_black wrote: post #114
mcast wrote: post #110

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It would be trivial to store data in the browser's local storage and hijack a "real" HTTP POST with this data. The front-end logic would need to be obfuscated far enough to deter anyone from trying to step through the Javascript to find it. But no, HN doesn't do this, only companies like Facebook or Twitter would stand to gain from that information (e.g. a shooter almost tweets his plan to attack but doesn't post it)…

> It would be trivial to store data in the browser's local storage and hijack a "real" HTTP POST with this data. The front-end logic would need to be obfuscated far enough to deter anyone from trying to step through the Javascript to find it. Hmm, I think I’ll write a library to do something like this, I just need a cool clever name for it.

I'd suggest "ImPOSTer".

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Post by duluiz1 »

obmelvin wrote: post #85
jdtang13 wrote: post #48

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I think it's a little funny but I wouldn't call it deceptive. If you delete your local copy of a text message, that doesn't remove it from the other person's phone. Same thing with messages on AIM and IRC. So un-sending seems to be the far less obvious feature.

I'm not aware of a messaging service that lets you delete the recipients copy of a message, so I'm fairly surprised about people's reaction to your comments. Am I just not aware?

WhatsApp lets you delete the recipients copy of a message

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Post by retox »

scarmig wrote: post #76
creaghpatr wrote: post #70

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It raises the question...what other liberties did Zuckerberg take on facebook? The reddit thing was petty, but didn't really do any material damage. Uber's God View was more troubling...showing how you could track politicians/celebs usage of the platform. But facebook...this admission opens the door to speculation that Zuckerberg could have theoretically taken ad hoc 'God Mode' actions against users of his personal i…

Why wouldn't you trust him?

t. "dumb fuck"

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/well-these-new-zuckerberg...

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