What does this say about the quality of the automatic emergency braking, if it can't detect a substantial metal object directly in front of the car?
Autopilot has trouble with stationary objects. https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-autopilot-why-crash-radar/
Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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> lane markings are confusing but GPS and inertial readings should have clearly indicated that that is not a lane GPS is not accurate enough to reliably pinpoint your location to a particular lane. Even WAAS ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_Area_Augmentation_System ) can have up to 25 feet of error. Basic GPS is less accurate than that. In fact, it's possible that GPS error was a contributing factor here but ther…
I've heard on and off for many years (15 years?) about ad-hoc wireless networks for cars. Whether it's car to car, or car to some devices on the ground (lane marking, stop lights) so it knows where it is at in relationship to the road and other cars - and it would know if the car ahead is going to break or slow down. Now the cars are relying on cameras, lidar to figure things out. What has happened to putting sensors…
Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
>People who can't maintain proper speed without either flooring it, or taking their foot off the pedal, shouldn't be driving. Not entirely true. I've been to German driving school and my father really pushed the concept of smooth throttle control on me as a beginning driver. Be smooth always. However, as I was able to afford higher and higher performance vehicles my take on the smooth maintaining of speed without not…
I drive a manual transmission BMW. The shifting, and speed control can be as smooth as glass. It's the driver not the machine. Take consideration for your passenger, and everyone else on the road.
a) you don't want to drive them smoothing because that's no fun - even for just the exhaust note & b) It's actually difficult to drive them smoothly because of the torque/HP.
It doesn't mean you are a bad driver, it simply means you've adjusted your driving style to match the car you are driving.
Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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So your basically paying (A lot) of cash to beta test their software for them... at your own (Very personal) risk!
Not just your own risk... There are other people on the road who share that risk. It makes me angry at Elon Musk himself. First he didn't sterilize that stupid thing he sent into interplanetary space. Now he's putting peoples lives at risk.
Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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#266This comment from OP (beastpilot) is pretty frightening: > Yep, works for 6 months with zero issues. Then one Friday night you get an update. Everything works that weekend, and on your way to work on Monday. Then, 18 minutes into your commute home, it drives straight at a barrier at 60 MPH. > It's important to remember that it's not like you got the update 5 minutes before this happened. Even worse, you may not know…
And this is why if I ever get a self driving car I want: 1) root 2) control over updates 3) everything to be completely open
Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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We've actually moved quite a bit away from "100%" direct control. Anti-lock brakes were the first such system. Before, you had to pump the brakes in an emergency, a practice that was difficult to execute even without the shock of an impeding accident. That system alone certainly saves thousands of lives every year.
The average driver will probably never actually experience abs. It's a good failsafe that is rarely employed...if it is, you definitely realize it
Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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The average driver will probably never actually experience abs. It's a good failsafe that is rarely employed...if it is, you definitely realize it
Unless you live in the US in the Midwest or New England area, then the likelihood of you never having experienced ABS kicking in is likely to be 0%. Braking on ice is not the most fun experience.
Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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I hate to break it to you but it could still happen to you because both you and those Teslas are part of the same traffic stream. So you could easily get killed because of a software bug in someone else's vehicle.
touche. seems like they're more interested in concrete barriers than other cars at the moment.
And remember not to have an emergency requiring you to stop on the side of the road:
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc0yYJ8-Dyo
[2] https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/23/16923800/tesla-firetruck-...
Re: Another Tesla on autopilot steers towards a barrier
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touche. seems like they're more interested in concrete barriers than other cars at the moment.
Wait for the next software update. And remember not to have an emergency requiring you to stop on the side of the road: [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc0yYJ8-Dyo [2] https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/23/16923800/tesla-firetruck-...