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Re: Stripe Billing

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As far as I can tell this is just dashboard and api only. But I guess they're moving towards that. Ironic as the connect partners that helped them grow are now having their toes be stepped on. Not a nice way to play. Burn the community who helped you get there in the first place. Turn and burn it seems

You can't expect that Stripe doesn't expand their feature set. Seeing that there are hundreds of services built around stripe ( https://stripe.com/works-with/types/stripe-extensions ) it's really expected that some of them will be cannibalized eventually. Subscription billing has been in Stripe for many years... it's just been very weak until now. Totally makes sense for them to work on this and if you built a subscr…

Of course, I’m just saying to charge for it when they built their success on this is leaving a bitter taste... the community that made them are being pushed aside in favour of short term profit

Re: Stripe Billing

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As far as I can tell this is just dashboard and api only. But I guess they're moving towards that. Ironic as the connect partners that helped them grow are now having their toes be stepped on. Not a nice way to play. Burn the community who helped you get there in the first place. Turn and burn it seems

It seems on par with many platforms in the past. Twitter, FB, Paypal etc. See what was built on top, see what is succeeding and they add that to the offering.

Yeah makes sense. I’m mostly upset they’re charging for it. We offer way more than what Stripe offers our customers. Not worried about that.

Re: Stripe Billing

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As far as I can tell this is just dashboard and api only. But I guess they're moving towards that. Ironic as the connect partners that helped them grow are now having their toes be stepped on. Not a nice way to play. Burn the community who helped you get there in the first place. Turn and burn it seems

You can't expect that Stripe doesn't expand their feature set. Seeing that there are hundreds of services built around stripe ( https://stripe.com/works-with/types/stripe-extensions ) it's really expected that some of them will be cannibalized eventually. Subscription billing has been in Stripe for many years... it's just been very weak until now. Totally makes sense for them to work on this and if you built a subscr…

They’re also shooting themselves in the foot. They’re without a doubt less competitively positioned from a developer POV now. In my opinion. Even from a startup who isn’t technical. More percentages just get scary when you have people like Braintree keeping it simple...

Also Stripe still rely on their partners to drive business to them at the end of the day. No denying that it’s a big part of their funnel. A startup looking at their offering cold now will just be confused as well. What even is it? Some people think it’s a checkout when it’s not. It’s just s slightly more advanced subscription api with a price tag.

Also by cannibalising their partners will dry up their eco system. Chances are the partners do a better job as they’re focused on it. Can’t be perfect at everything.

I’ll see what they have to say on the call I have with them tomorrow.

Re: Stripe Billing

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I wonder why the EU is an afterthought when you need to spend millions on compliance for every new feature

Against all my instincts, even though this post is unconstructive and snarky and flame bait, and even though I am European (or perhaps because of it), I have to upvote this. European people, those voting for representatives voting for representatives (!) making the laws, need to start feeling the negative feedback of the regulations. I’m not saying there are no benefits to consumer protection; there are, I am a massi…

I don’t see your logic. Of course new features of a US company are going to be focussed on their home market first.

And claiming that regulation in EU is stifling business is a bit naive. Regulation is everywhere. Have you ever tried to sell an app that uses encryption (like TLS or SSH) on the app store? The stuff you need to do in the US for „export compliance“ is ridiculous (even if it‘s an app that wasn‘t written in the US in the first place)

Re: Stripe Billing

#276
Skeptical a bit about "usage-based" billing and interested to hear others' thoughts. Isn't a major profit-driver for many subscription-based businesses the breakage?

Re: Stripe Billing

#277
Awesome job on making it easy to add usage based plans. I've found Stripe's customer service to be a notch above the rest.

Request to folks at Stripe ( @pc / @tarstarr ) : Please do something to protect small business owners against fraudulent payments (i.e. with stolen cards). Even if they follow all recommended practices by Stripe, it's very likely that there are a handful of stolen cards that will fly under the radar and hit them negatively.

I'd say if the merchant is not at fault due to a stolen card being used on their site, they should not get penalized for it. The chargeback fee is one thing, the worse part is the dispute rate going up. This threatens the existence of any business if their account is suspended by Stripe.

Re: Stripe Billing

#278

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You can't expect that Stripe doesn't expand their feature set. Seeing that there are hundreds of services built around stripe ( https://stripe.com/works-with/types/stripe-extensions ) it's really expected that some of them will be cannibalized eventually. Subscription billing has been in Stripe for many years... it's just been very weak until now. Totally makes sense for them to work on this and if you built a subscr…

They’re also shooting themselves in the foot. They’re without a doubt less competitively positioned from a developer POV now. In my opinion. Even from a startup who isn’t technical. More percentages just get scary when you have people like Braintree keeping it simple... Also Stripe still rely on their partners to drive business to them at the end of the day. No denying that it’s a big part of their funnel. A startup…

To be clear there is no doubt it’s a sensible direction and a great product but charging for it is not IMO. Superior product will drive more business to them regardless. The market of payment gateways is competitive already.

But congrats and good job Stripe. Just reconsider the pricing.

Re: Stripe Billing

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Josh As an outsider, comparing BareMetrics vs Profitwell - all I have to say is thank you for 2 specific reasons. 1. BareMetrics has a live demo. Profitwell tried to make me schedule a call with a sales person just to view the product. 2. BareMetrics has simple pricing. With Profitwell, I literally couldn't figure out how much it'd cost if I were to use them.

Hey Tiffany - Patrick from ProfitWell here. I know you wrote this to Josh, but just jumping in here to address the ProfitWell side. :) 1. You're 100% right. We don't have a live demo. We're working on a solution for you here, but it's been delayed for some other cool features. Happy to share when we launch something for you. I know a call can be annoying, but it wouldn't be a sales person. Most metrics demos are from…

Do you sell user data in any form?

Re: Stripe Billing

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Stripe cofounder here. For anyone wondering about pricing, here's our approach. - For new Stripe customers, this is free up to the first (lifetime) $1M of payments. - For existing customers, there's no pricing change. You just get more functionality than before for free. This is what we generally try to do: we want Stripe to continually become better value for you over time, as you get more functionality for the same…

Hi,

Can you share some details on when Stripe will be available for Israeli start-ups? There's quite a big ecosystem here dying to use Stripe but we just can't.

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