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Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by Touche » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:46 PM UTC

raiyu wrote: post #3

nhangen wrote: post #2

Current Stripe customer that is now very confused.

It's basically an automated recurring billing service that you can use whether you run a static monthly subscription service ($9/mo per user), or if you are using a metered approach, such as $0.02 cents per SMS, and then do that on a recurring basis. So if you think about the 3 or so standard business models for SaaS, per user, per usage, or per tier (standard, pro, advanced) - this provides for all of that in an aut…

Right, Subscriptions only has, IIRC, per-tier type of pricing. I need per-usage for my product, and was doing manual Stripe payments. But that meant if I wanted to change the pricing I would need to keep track of what customer was at what price point on my end. I'm interested to see if Billing is flexible enough to handle my use-case.

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by mstefff » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:47 PM UTC

How is this any different than the subscriptions they previously offered? And what do services like Recurly do that Stripe subscriptions don't? And when is Stripe going to automatically handle sales tax?

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by aidos » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:49 PM UTC

Having used Chargebee for a long time I would say that this problem space is much larger than it first appears. There are a lot of boxes to tick before a solution like this does all the stuff you’ll need it to (but have no idea about).

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by gargarplex » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:55 PM UTC

brianwawok wrote: post #8

gargarplex wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's better than Recurly. They take 1% plus $99/month or $299/month if you want accounting software integration. And there's no free tier. I'm game.

Stripe already did recurring billing without a 1% though

Yeah, but now Stripe is adding in features like email invoices, presumably the ability to for customers to update payment info, etc. I don't know how much exactly has been added incrementally and how much is available in this release, but I'm optimistic that soon I will be able to phase Recurly out of our stack...If someone from Stripe wants to build a Recurly -> Stripe migration toolset, I'd love that!

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by brianbreslin » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:55 PM UTC

What companies does this hurt? Recurly? Zuora (which recently had an IPO)? Chargify? The truly interesting feature to me is the credit card recapture part which updates automatically cards that are re-issued.

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by tarstarr » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:56 PM UTC

klinskyc wrote: post #4

How does Stripe auto-recovery compare to a service like Stunning? Does it make it redundant?

(PM of Billing from Stripe here) Tools like Stunning, and the many other extensions that work with Stripe, are very complementary to Stripe Billing. As you’d expect from Stripe, we’ve taken an API-first approach, so that our partners can actually take advantage of our recovery tools when building their solutions. We expect that particular businesses will want to use both!

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by citizens » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:56 PM UTC

Looks buggy to me. I created a test invoice and specified that it should be payable at a later date and only via ACH.

I checked the preview link and the only option to pay was by credit card. I sent the invoice anyway and the test user's credit card was immediately charged.

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by tarstarr » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

mythz wrote: post #9

Just received an Email saying this "replaces Stripe Subscriptions", what does that mean exactly? e.g. what happens with our existing Customers and their active subscriptions? IMO this is a poor communication and confusing announcement with lots of open/unanswered questions for existing Customers, which is unlike what I've come to expect from Stripe.

(PM for Stripe Billing here!) If you’re an existing user of Stripe Subscriptions, you can continue as you were! Your existing integration will still work as before and your customers won’t be impacted.

That said, you’ll also get access to all of the new tools as well -- would love for you to try them (and see if it improves your experience!) If you go to the Dashboard, we walk you through what changed in detail -- let me know if that helps, or feel free to send me an email at any point: tara@stripe.com

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by seddona » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 5:59 PM UTC

citizens wrote: post #17

Looks buggy to me. I created a test invoice and specified that it should be payable at a later date and only via ACH. I checked the preview link and the only option to pay was by credit card. I sent the invoice anyway and the test user's credit card was immediately charged.

same here

Re: Stripe Billing

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Post by shazow » Thu, Apr 05, 2018, 6:00 PM UTC

brianbreslin wrote: post #15

What companies does this hurt? Recurly? Zuora (which recently had an IPO)? Chargify? The truly interesting feature to me is the credit card recapture part which updates automatically cards that are re-issued.

https://stripe.com/works-with/categories/recurring-payments is a nice list.