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What is the definition of "correct" in this context that we can all agree to?

Morally correct?

"Morally correct" as in according to one's moral principles? Is that, in its turn, something that we all agree on and share?

Terrorists definitely hold moral principles that are different from mine. To a terrorist, blowing people up to bring attention to their point may be the morally correct thing to do.

Hence we have terrifying people like Kaczynski with extremely strong moral convictions that deviate far from what is generally considered normal and socially acceptable, whose ill deeds are consistent and true to their moral principles.

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post #137

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That’s a style of web design I’ve seen before - lots of colors, different font sizes, wall of text rants... something about it screams mental instability. See Time Cube for an extreme example.

back in the 90's it was extremely common to see lots of colors, especially on a black background.

I like this style, and wish more people followed their own instincts when designing their blogs, rather than reverting to the standard corporate web-style we see so often these days.

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Firstly, my sympathies with the people at Youtube HQ. I have many, many friends in the bay area and so this kind of thing hits close to home. Secondly, I struggle when thinking about if we should give airtime to a shooter's grievances, or reasons. Or even mention who they are. I tend to be on the side of: don't give them any air time. And certainly, don't acquiesce to this type of behavior because it is almost by def…

>Secondly, I struggle when thinking about if we should give airtime to a shooter's grievances, or reasons.

I don't know about your way of thinking, but when a person is willing to give his life for a reason, I want to know exactly what it was.

Sometimes it's just crazy talk, other times it helps you identify a problem and stop further shootings or ruined lifes that end in shootings.

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She's a disgruntled Youtuber. This is her website: http://nasimabc.com/ From her page showing a screenshot of her Youtube ad revenue dashboard: > Analytics Last 28 days > Views 366,591 > Revenue $0.10 Highlighted in Red: Revenue $0.10? There's also another bit where she shows her historical vs. current traffic and makes a reasonable case that she's getting down ranked. Interesting times.

> Views 366,591 > Revenue $0.10 So basically all of her videos were demonetized?

The fact that this happens seems even worse than PayPal freezing the accounts of random users.

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This looks like it's going to be an increasingly big problem for the platform giants, as it pertains to their increasingly aggressive speech restrictions. As they ramp those restrictions up, I'd expect the need for security to increase accordingly. A mentally unwell person is likely to feel targeted, oppressed, threatened, harmed, etc. by being silenced. They'll feel isolated and it'll very likely feel like a persona…

You are talking about people with mental illness. I think the platforms produce mental illness. If you influence and produce a certain kind of behaviour through appropriate reward mechanisms and then after a few years of conditioning reduce/remove the reward what do you think happens? Mental illness. YouTube has conditioned a generation of people to chant "subscribe like and share" like a robots. The day the "subscri…

The platforms might be the difference between crazy and crazier, but nobody is going from normal to psychotic because of YT.

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> It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them. Because they don't want to encourage people to gawk at the death spectacle? This includes all the times a suicidal killer leaves behind a manifesto that could serve to inspire copycat killers.

The Elliot Rodgers videos are still up on YouTube, though. On the balance, it’s probably more helpful to allow people to understand what led up to these events rather than suppressing the shooter’s words for the sake of some theoretical safety benefit.

> On the balance, it’s probably more helpful []

Although this is negated by the strong positive correlation between media coverage of a shooting and an uptick in following shootings (which I'd suggest is more than "some theoretical safety benefit".)

cf http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2016/08/media-contagi...

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Looks like it. Considering that she would have needed to increase her views by 3 orders of magnitude to scratch out $100/month from them. She should have did affiliate marketing & patreon.

> She should have did affiliate marketing This is the modern version of "as seen on TV" ads, I've started unsubscribing to anyone that does it regularly. Advertising intermixed with content is the worst form of advertising.

Some channels do it acceptably. CGP Grey comes to mind, usually an ad for a service at the end of the video the advertiser has effectively funded.

It's far worse when people do it without saying, ie product placement. Can't think of any good examples since people usually get away with it, although the obvious blatant example would be any of the Jenner's on Instagram which got into issues for not reporting paid endorsements IIRC.

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So if this person was not an employee, it's amazing to me how she got into the building? Usually these large tech campuses are pretty locked down, with at least one badged entrance, and security or front desk staff watching who comes and goes. That said, I've never visited the YouTube campus, so maybe it bucks the norm.

I've never seen a tech workplace where you couldn't tailgate through the access control. Not saying that's what happened in this case, but anyone who thinks tech workplaces are locked down has very different experiences to me.

The times I've visited Apple or Facebook, there's always one if not several security guards watching each person badge in, to ensure you don't tailgate. Facebook's main building even has those optical turnstiles, to make it harder (as if the guards weren't imposing enough).

Probably the smaller buildings are much easier to tailgate? Or maybe Facebook and Apple just don't represent the norm in the valley.

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