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Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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It seems like the revenue share may have pushed her over the edge. Honest question: does the revenue share program do anything positive? It seems like it increases noise quite a bit to me.

Revenue sharing keeps creators from switching to another platform.

A significant number of people make their living off of Youtube

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I watch a vegan channel that Youtube recommended to me quite often, and Im not even vegan. Based on her page, showing dogs being boiled alive, I think vegan isnt perhaps the best description for that content. A vegan channel is someone showing how to make salads.

Seems to me that modern day veganism is more related to showing provocative videos of animal abuse than it is making salads.

Vegan activism, which is a very small, but very vocal minority.

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Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with blood of tyrants. Sorry you can't see yourself as such.

I can't tell if you're joking, but if not, this might be the stupidest thing I've read on this site.

The exact quote by Thomas Jefferson was: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."[0][1]

Though, if the hired guns that enforce and enable their corporate/cultural owners, to silent the voices of societies dissenters and the marginal in various forms, cannot see the roles they play (albeit, indirectly at times, perhaps blinded by their own incentives, maybe this is the lethargy Jefferson talked about), then I will not be surprised to see things to continue to escalate.

Plenty of soft targets abound that corporate and cultural owners rely on for dominating the public for their own ends.

[0] https://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2074

[1] https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-meaning-behind-the-quote-t...

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> People need to realize that using "free" platforms, means they are beyond your control and your fate is up to their vagaries. People need to realize that there is no such thing as free. Nobody is getting anything for free here, because usage of the service generates analytics data, and it goes into a thick file connected to your account. Those so-called "free" platforms also monopolize the market space, creating le…

you can use them without being tracked by watching in anon mode, or deleting your cookies first. google doesn't block you. i watch it that way all the time. and its free.

You should read up on browser fingerprinting (https://panopticlick.eff.org/), they're still tracking you.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#165

It seems like the revenue share may have pushed her over the edge. Honest question: does the revenue share program do anything positive? It seems like it increases noise quite a bit to me.

Revenue sharing keeps creators from switching to another platform. A significant number of people make their living off of Youtube

I understand that people can make a significant amount of money that way, but is there really another platform to switch to that could offer the same?

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Would you have said the same thing about Mark Conditt? Or is there a difference? Should we talk about some murderers and not others? Was he a terrorist? Was she?

We know that reporting on a killer's identity and motives in detail encourages ideation in others. I think it's fine to talk about these people, but context is important. In this case, it appears to be someone who was frustrated with a lack of social media attention; we should be careful in not rewarding her heinous act in a way that encourages a future shooter.

She was getting plenty of attention.

She was not getting plenty of money.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#167

So looking at her videos on Telegram ( https://t.me/nasimesabz1 ), she was anti gun. She was a very weird individual with clear mental health issues. I don't even know what to make of most of her content on that channel.

I'm Iranian and she seems bizarre and it's quite clear from her videos that she is, well, not normal. Not sure if that translates well and Americans would realize the same or not.

Yeah, it translates fine. I'd never in a million years think this is some Iranian culture at work.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#168
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So if this person was not an employee, it's amazing to me how she got into the building? Usually these large tech campuses are pretty locked down, with at least one badged entrance, and security or front desk staff watching who comes and goes. That said, I've never visited the YouTube campus, so maybe it bucks the norm.

I've never seen a tech workplace where you couldn't tailgate through the access control.

Not saying that's what happened in this case, but anyone who thinks tech workplaces are locked down has very different experiences to me.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#169

This looks like it's going to be an increasingly big problem for the platform giants, as it pertains to their increasingly aggressive speech restrictions. As they ramp those restrictions up, I'd expect the need for security to increase accordingly. A mentally unwell person is likely to feel targeted, oppressed, threatened, harmed, etc. by being silenced. They'll feel isolated and it'll very likely feel like a persona…

> A mentally unwell person is likely to feel targeted, oppressed, threatened, harmed, etc. by being silenced.

A mentally unwell person is equally likely to feel targeted, oppressed, threatened, harmed, etc. by a platform that harbors content which, in fact or merely their perception, endorses, advocates, or directly does any of targeting, oppressing, threatening, or harming them or any group they identify with.

Heck, even a mentally well person might reasonably feel that way, though they may be less likely to respond to it violently.

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