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Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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> the narrative around here In my experience, people tend to perceive that to be whatever they don't like, and it varies greatly with the perceiver. I don't see why this story would get flagged. (Edit: some users are pointing out the don't-give-airtime argument. That's a fair point.)

Nevertheless, 16 minutes old, it seems flagged and dead to me.

It's sitting in the top 10 on the front page.

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> I don't know what scrutiny scares them To be fair, YouTube/Google just had an active shooter on their campus. If there's anything that justifies terminating someone's account, it would be opening fire on the company directly and injuring people.

You made me scroll through the youtube TOS to see if that was considered a violation. As far as I can tell it's technically not... in fact, I can't even find a blanket "YouTube reserves the right to remove any content, for any reason, whatsoever" statement. They don't actually need to state that in the TOS, because they do have that right, but, still.

You made me scroll through the TOS again and triple check. Indeed, there is no clause for wholesale termination, but they do require you to follow the community guidelines. Those guidelines do say that you can't promote violence -- and while committing an act of violence isn't necessarily promotion, it could be interpreted as such.

Still interesting to see that there's no blanket termination policy, though. I stand thoroughly corrected.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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This looks like it's going to be an increasingly big problem for the platform giants, as it pertains to their increasingly aggressive speech restrictions. As they ramp those restrictions up, I'd expect the need for security to increase accordingly. A mentally unwell person is likely to feel targeted, oppressed, threatened, harmed, etc. by being silenced. They'll feel isolated and it'll very likely feel like a persona…

>The platforms today are so large, it surely can seem like being cut off from society in general, like a human right is being revoked. probably similar to say imagine Bell's denying a landline in 197x because of your speech.

I believe that would be illegal because phone companies are “common carriers”? Not sure if that was true in the 70s.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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> the narrative around here In my experience, people tend to perceive that to be whatever they don't like, and it varies greatly with the perceiver. I don't see why this story would get flagged. (Edit: some users are pointing out the don't-give-airtime argument. That's a fair point.)

> people tend to perceive [the narrative] to be whatever they don't like Heh heh. This is supported by research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_media_effect

That's interesting—I've not heard this before. Thanks!

It's the most astonishingly consistent phenomenon. Nearly as astonishingly, it appears impossible to convince anybody of.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Here is a mirror of her videos http://www.dailymotion.com/yesilnasim

There is a video in which she's edited footage from "America's Got Talent" with footage of her performing a cringey act. Can't tell if it's meant to be tongue-in-cheek parody or if she's being delusional about being TV famous: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5dax32

It's definitely parody, mocking the apparent absurdity of the show.

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I have to really wonder if YouTube is actually anti-vegan or if she was filtered for something else.

I watch a vegan channel that Youtube recommended to me quite often, and Im not even vegan. Based on her page, showing dogs being boiled alive, I think vegan isnt perhaps the best description for that content. A vegan channel is someone showing how to make salads.

Seems to me that modern day veganism is more related to showing provocative videos of animal abuse than it is making salads.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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As I see it: She posted on her site that she made 10 cents for 366,000 views these days. She must have been making quite a bit and then probably the algo determined that she is not making advertiser friendly videos so the spigot got closed. Must have appealed, we all know how those work.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Please consider not giving this person the online attention she sought as a result of her actions, and join me in flagging stories that dwell on her motives.

Would you have said the same thing about Mark Conditt? Or is there a difference? Should we talk about some murderers and not others? Was he a terrorist? Was she?

We know that reporting on a killer's identity and motives in detail encourages ideation in others. I think it's fine to talk about these people, but context is important.

In this case, it appears to be someone who was frustrated with a lack of social media attention; we should be careful in not rewarding her heinous act in a way that encourages a future shooter.

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Nevertheless, 16 minutes old, it seems flagged and dead to me.

It's sitting in the top 10 on the front page.

Yes, status was drastically changed when I refreshed. Someone supposedly vouched.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Looks like it. Considering that she would have needed to increase her views by 3 orders of magnitude to scratch out $100/month from them. She should have did affiliate marketing & patreon.

> She should have did affiliate marketing & patreon. And, like, ... not shot people.

It's funny how often that's a bad solution to a problem. Not always mind you ... but mostly.
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