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Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Looks like this is the culprit's website http://www.nasimesabz.com/index.html There are links to her (4?) youtube accounts, which have all been terminated. There's a link to her instagram, which has also been terminated, however there is a cached-copy here http://www.pictame.com/tag/yesilnasim

It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them. As for the lady, she seems to genuinely believe in veganism and fitness. Whatever weird things she did to propagate that seemed to be working (330K views?!!). Why she resorted to gun violence is much awaited.

Here's her last video. One youtube doesn't want you to see evidently,

https://www.freedomsafespace.com/m/videos/view/YouTube-Shoot...

She seems really upset.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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She's a disgruntled Youtuber. This is her website: http://nasimabc.com/ From her page showing a screenshot of her Youtube ad revenue dashboard: > Analytics Last 28 days > Views 366,591 > Revenue $0.10 Highlighted in Red: Revenue $0.10? There's also another bit where she shows her historical vs. current traffic and makes a reasonable case that she's getting down ranked. Interesting times.

> Views 366,591

> Revenue $0.10

So basically all of her videos were demonetized?

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#33

Looks like this is the culprit's website http://www.nasimesabz.com/index.html There are links to her (4?) youtube accounts, which have all been terminated. There's a link to her instagram, which has also been terminated, however there is a cached-copy here http://www.pictame.com/tag/yesilnasim

It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them. As for the lady, she seems to genuinely believe in veganism and fitness. Whatever weird things she did to propagate that seemed to be working (330K views?!!). Why she resorted to gun violence is much awaited.

> I don't know what scrutiny scares them

To be fair, YouTube/Google just had an active shooter on their campus. If there's anything that justifies terminating someone's account, it would be opening fire on the company directly and injuring people.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#34

Looks like this is the culprit's website http://www.nasimesabz.com/index.html There are links to her (4?) youtube accounts, which have all been terminated. There's a link to her instagram, which has also been terminated, however there is a cached-copy here http://www.pictame.com/tag/yesilnasim

It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them. As for the lady, she seems to genuinely believe in veganism and fitness. Whatever weird things she did to propagate that seemed to be working (330K views?!!). Why she resorted to gun violence is much awaited.

> Why she resorted to gun violence is much awaited.

My theory is this: I went through some of her past images. One of them showed a picture of a dog that was being mutilated (alive). She states that dogs in China are skinned alive because they believe that it makes the meat taste better.

Well, that is going to invoke strong feelings, especially if that's part of your core cause (to expose the mistreatment of animals to the world). When YouTube censors that, they might as well be part of the problem, from her perspective.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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I'm sure this submission will get flagged off the front page too because "Iranian woman bears arms against YouTube for censorship" doesn't really fit the narrative around here, but here's her page before it's wiped out too. Her YT and Insta have already been nuked. http://www.nasimesabz.com/

> the narrative around here In my experience, people tend to perceive that to be whatever they don't like, and it varies greatly with the perceiver. I don't see why this story would get flagged. (Edit: some users are pointing out the don't-give-airtime argument. That's a fair point.)

> people tend to perceive [the narrative] to be whatever they don't like

Heh heh. This is supported by research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_media_effect

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#36
Content platforms have no place policing content. All the algorithms currently used are utterly flawed, and they will always be flawed, both technically and morally. Technically, they'll always have false positives, especially at scale. Morally, they turn the platform owners into political figures inherently, siding with or against certain thoughts and sentiments.

The only solution is for platforms to be completely content agnostic and allow absolutely everything except outright graphic violence and adult content.

No removing any kind of speech whatsoever, including so-called "hate speech", no policing political topics, no identifying "fake news" and so forth -- words cannot hurt anyone, objectively, and everyone has their own personal agency to decide what they want to watch and make their own decisions based on what they see, even if it's state-funded propaganda.

If the police or FBI come to them with a warrant and take down notice, then sure. Otherwise, allow absolutely everything, and allow the free market of popularity to reign supreme.

In fact, all sides of all political and social issues should be outraged that content platforms think they have a place deciding what we can and cannot see.

And advertisers should stop allowing online outrage to dictate where they advertise by realizing two simple truths: a) if I'm watching a video with your advertisement on it, it's because I made the conscious choice to watch that video, and even if the video is about apartheid or waterboarding or guns, it's content that I want to consume, so they have no place stripping me of my personal agency, and b) the old model of advertisers being seen as endorsers for TV shows doesn't apply to on-demand online content.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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No justification for her actions, but Google does act as a serf master over the entire internet. It can single handedly decide who succeeds, who fails, and there is no recourse. There is no recourse, no appeal. Some 20 year old dude in Menlo Park decides, and your website, your life, your work, your future, is changed forever. Here's our account: https://www.medgadget.com/google

Why downvoting? We have an honest website since 2004! That's more than 14 years. We do interviews, reviews, conferences reports. Medical technologies: no politics, no controvertial content. All our staff is US and European-based MDs and PhDs, hard working professional people. And starting with Panda update by Google, we can barely survive... Read our account: the story is true and is very honest.

Maybe before downvoting people need to realize that Google, instead of fostering a better internet, by working on promoting honest and hard working publishers and creators, decided that it will concentrate on goals of increasing its own profitability? Do you see new publishers popping up on the internet? Have you heard of such as thing as VC investment rounds in start ups in publishing? No? Maybe Google has something to do with it. And internet is poorer, as a result, and your experience on internet is poorer.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#39

Looks like this is the culprit's website http://www.nasimesabz.com/index.html There are links to her (4?) youtube accounts, which have all been terminated. There's a link to her instagram, which has also been terminated, however there is a cached-copy here http://www.pictame.com/tag/yesilnasim

It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them. As for the lady, she seems to genuinely believe in veganism and fitness. Whatever weird things she did to propagate that seemed to be working (330K views?!!). Why she resorted to gun violence is much awaited.

> It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them.

Because they don't want to encourage people to gawk at the death spectacle? This includes all the times a suicidal killer leaves behind a manifesto that could serve to inspire copycat killers.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Why was her YouTube channel nuked after this happening? Seems weird and dystopian, even if what she did was obviously very wrong.

Probably because you dont know what she put up there, and you dont want to give an attempted murderer a giant platform, as a win.
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