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How about wearing huge Sombrero so that your face is invisible for cameras mounted above your head?
Then they just track the person with the huge Sombrero!
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A radical proposal to keep your personal data safe
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you haven’t sacrificed anything for your principles, then they are just words. I think the deeper problem is that we no longer even pretend to value people of character.
I'm prepared to sacrifice many things for various principles. But I won't sacrifice access to information, which is what I find most valuable about the internet. Information is power, and if principled people sacrifice their access to information, then unprincipled people will hold more of the world's power. So the danger of encouraging principled people to opt out of parts of the internet is that they will become le…
> Information is power, and if principled people sacrifice their access to information, then unprincipled people will hold more of the world's power.
What if access to information necessitates handing over information about oneself, which gives other entities power to influence one? Eg: One can browse for information, but companies will track browsing activity, and use that towards targeted persuasion.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Saying "society needs to care more" is the last stop before the final destination of "this can't be done". Getting great many people to coordinate on something that's beneficial to them long-term, but carries an (even insignificant) short-term cost is one of the hardest (if not the hardest) things to do, out of all the things humans ever tried.
I interpret "society needs to care more" as a challenge: what can we do to make society care more? Put another way, I view this as a collective action problem.
The classic solution to collective action problems is to have the government take care of it.
But here, the government is probably the biggest offender. You'll pry their databases and TSA inspections from their cold, dead hands.
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#104Obviously this proposal will be rejected because both companies and governments are addicted to the power to control and manipulate that data gives them. We need a strong leader who will go against the grain of these massive entrenched interests and be willing to stand up to the media onslaught such a stance will bring. The mainstream media will attack anyone who threatens their advertising based business model. When…
We need a strong leader That's how you ended up with a surveillance society in the first place, silly.
And if you have a weak leader, you have companies running around doing whatever they wish (e.g. Amazon and Google now) because there is no oversight or regulations, and pitiful punishments for betraying their customers.
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#105The article raises good points. One important aspect is missing though; the reliance on web services, SaaS, and the like. Free software is not enough. We need free software that runs locally and offline.
Maybe the way to go with this is to have an auditing system where third-party auditors go through the source code (with NDAs) and certify it meets $PrivacyStandards. This might be a way to appease the folks who want to keep their software proprietary and yet make sure they don't just get to do what they want. Kind of like financial audits.
Sorry, but no. For this to work you will need a select group of people with too much power. Why would I trust those people instead of the original creators? This is just going to create a parasitic industry, with no much value.
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#106GNU Taler seems to be such a betrayal of the GNU project's principles. Baking state surveillance into software isn't something GNU should be doing. It's as if GPG was an implementation of the Clipper Chip algorithm because, you know, otherwise it might be used for ~~tax fraud~~ terrorism.
Personally, of all the crypto currencies it's the one I'd like to pay with most. I want companies I transact with to pay taxes, while preserving my psuedo-anonymity. I have no interest in using a volatile asset for an single transaction.
Happily there are plenty of others to choose from, too, but I'm glad that one with these overall design principles exists.
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#107This seems like such a losing battle. Payments on public transit could become anonymous, but the video feeds would still be recorded, and facial recognition could be easily performed. The cat is out of the bag. Information technology makes this data accumulation inevitable. Likely even for those who walk around with a face covering all day, pay only cash, and don't use smartphones. By doing those things you actually…
Zuckerberg- is that you?
Seriously, WTF!?!
Not one part of that comment is true.
The cat’s not out of the bag. Nothing “permanent” has happened. A law could be passed tomorrow requiring that all of our personal data be erased. You might not like it and it would put you out of business.
And that part where you say “best safeguards are to create strong institutions...”. That sounds strangely like “the 4 dog defense” article that’s currently on HN. You just skipped the other arguments
1. We don’t have your data 2. If we had your data it’s it would have taken work to collect it. 3. If it took work to collect it it’s ours since you should have protected it. 4. If you didn’t protect it, the only answer is to form strong instituitions to protect the information formerly about you, but which now belongs to us.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
The data could be stored encrypted on a VM and cycled off after {n} hours. With the right codecs and encryption, you could likely store a couple days of motion on a small amount of storage. If uploaded in chunks, you might miss a couple minutes prior to the unit being destroyed. I suppose protecting your internet uplink becomes important at this point.
Just store the encrypted files in AWS S3 (or equivalent)?
then I can view the recordings remotely without physical collection of the recordings, exactly what RMS proposes should be illegal.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
I interpret "society needs to care more" as a challenge: what can we do to make society care more? Put another way, I view this as a collective action problem.
The classic solution to collective action problems is to have the government take care of it. But here, the government is probably the biggest offender. You'll pry their databases and TSA inspections from their cold, dead hands.
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#110> Video cameras should make a local recording that can be checked for the next few weeks if a crime occurs, but should not allow remote viewing without physical collection of the recording. it would suck if the terrorist bomb also took out the cameras themselves. I have cameras at my house wired to a local unit. It's mostly for convenience and looking for animals and not very serious for security; any well-respecting…
That's awfully close to movie plot threat thinking. Put your NAS in a secure back room and you're going to be fine for practically every scenario short of a 9/11 scale attack. And if you insist, just save your recordings to an off-site location. I'm pretty sure RMS is cool with co-located servers, as long as you control them.
> I'm pretty sure RMS is cool with co-located servers, as long as you control them.
that wasn't my reading of what he wrote. He wrote, "should not allow remote viewing without physical collection of the recording.". If a town has security cameras all over the town, and they all transmit recordings to a co-located server facility, there's no reason to physically collect anything - anyone with access to the servers can easily collect surveillance of the whole town for no reason.
> Put your NAS in a secure back room and you're going to be fine for practically every scenario short of a 9/11 scale attack.
Security camera systems are hoped to be useful in the event of a 9/11 scale attack, which has actually occurred, as well as any large-scale bomb attack that might destroy an entire facility, or may have the vault with the servers buried under tons of rubble where one needs the footage a lot quicker than that.