Schools Struggle with Vaping Explosion

Post by chillwaves » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 4:27 AM UTC

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My father's been smoking for over 50 years. I got him to switch to mostly vaping last year. The difference in his health has been profound. It almost eliminated his coughing, increased his ability to walk distances. His doctor was amazed at his last checkup. She said she couldn't recommend it to patients due to the uncertainties, but encouraged him to keep doing whatever it is that he's doing. Edit: I bought him the…

Another benefit I've seen a number of times is that people seems to have an easier time quitting. (Based on my sample of The pattern, as explained to me and IIRC, was as follows: Started vaping insteadof smoking. Tried vape with less nicotine. Worked equally well. Tried with half strength. Tried with even less. Also worked. At this point it just felt silly so they just stopped. (Note that these where young people.)

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 4:42 AM UTC

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Cigarettes cause high rates of lung cancer, killing tons of people. It makes sense to heavily discourage teenagers from using them. As far as I am aware (I am not an expert about or user of any of these products) the risks from vaping are much less severe. Is the concern just that the activity is nominally unlawful? Or that it will be a “gateway drug” (is there any evidence of that)? Or that it is a waste of students…

It's less severe, but nicotine alone is carcinogenic.

Post by wheresmyusern » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 4:49 AM UTC

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I never understood why anyone young would start smoking. Throughout my K-12 education, I was told every single year that smoking is bad and all that jazz (i.e. shown pictures of what a smoker's lungs look like, shown documentaries on the negative effects, etc.). It definitely isn't for lack of trying of my school district's part, and yet high single digit percentages of my peers in high school were using some form of…

Post by mistermann » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 5:02 AM UTC

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Cigarettes cause high rates of lung cancer, killing tons of people. It makes sense to heavily discourage teenagers from using them. As far as I am aware (I am not an expert about or user of any of these products) the risks from vaping are much less severe. Is the concern just that the activity is nominally unlawful? Or that it will be a “gateway drug” (is there any evidence of that)? Or that it is a waste of students…

The risks of vaping are unknown. Just look for the mention of "popcorn lung" from the chemicals used for flavoring. It's also more addictive than cigarettes because the devices can be tuned to deliver much more nicotine than a cigarette.

Post by algorias » Tue, Apr 03, 2018, 5:06 AM UTC

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Cigarettes cause high rates of lung cancer, killing tons of people. It makes sense to heavily discourage teenagers from using them. As far as I am aware (I am not an expert about or user of any of these products) the risks from vaping are much less severe. Is the concern just that the activity is nominally unlawful? Or that it will be a “gateway drug” (is there any evidence of that)? Or that it is a waste of students…

My concern would be around the long-term effects of inhaling vapor from heated metal alloys. I doubt that we have enough safety data, given the newness of the tech and (I assume) the variety of metals being used. That being said, I’m no expert so please chime in if you have information around this concern.