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Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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And any of these companies could be purchased by some other entity and change their data privacy policy.

This is not really true. These companies entire model is handling data and they charge their partners for it. It is not a free product. As such, going off and selling the data is not really going to happen.

Huh? That has nothing to do with what I said.

I said if any of these companies get acquired, the acquiring party can do whatever the hell they want with that data, previous privacy policy be-damned. This has already happened. A lot.

Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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> That's also a big factor in why I have a problem with governments collecting data. You may trust the present day administration (or not...), but who knows what a future administration (or occupying force) is going to be up to The standard example is how the Netherlands were rather religiously tolerant, but used to keep track of Jews for tax collection purposes before WW2. Then when the Nazis arrived, they had all t…

Why did they keep those records? Different tax rates for different religions? Seems like none of their business.

To be able to give the proper last rights absent any other family. Just in case...

Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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Given the current reality, you can do either of the following here: A) Mark yourself as HIV positive in your profile, which Grindr will share with third parties. B) Directly declare yourself as HIV-positive at some point in a conversation. I’m not suggesting there are options without drawbacks.

I imagine a lot of folks declared it in their profile without knowing it would be shared and they probably declared to try to have a more positive experience over having one dreaded discussion after another. I think those folks have reason to be upset.

I agree that they have every right to be upset. Grindr didn’t need to share that kind of information with third parties.

Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...

Yikes. Combine this with the Chinese OPM hack, where extremely personal data for most government employees with security clearance has been stolen, and they have a blackmail goldmine on their hands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Personnel_Management... They can verify what has been reported on sf-86 vs what might be found from this service. Any affairs or issues not reported are ripe for blackmail. Possibil…

You know, maybe we'll actually see some legislation on personal information and privacy and how it must be handled over time and in acquisitions sooner than later. I Facebook's problems were promising in this respect, but with the additional disclosures happening so often, and especially in situations like this, we might see some real change for the better soon.

If so, I consider all those that had their Grindr info stolen or even just acquired by individuals that may have less moral qualms about selling it to those that would use it for ill patriots who suffered for us all.

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I feel like it's only a matter of time before we see some devastating compromise(s) of security using the OPM hack and/or hacks of private data sources. When you look at some of the common methods intelligence adversaries use to ensnare assets (extortion, money, exploiting sympathies, stroking egos, revenge, etc.) the information in these hacks are a treasure trove the likes of which may never have been seen before.…

> I feel like it's only a matter of time before we see some devastating compromise(s) of security using the OPM hack and/or hacks of private data sources. I'm willing to bet that the devastating compromises thanks to the OPM hack have already happened, and that they're either classified, or, even scarier, the USG doesn't even know about them yet (e.g. people blackmailed into being spies who haven't yet been caught).

We should look out for suicides. Someone who's given the choice between destroying his family and betraying his country might be pretty likely to off himself.

Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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Even within its confines, Grindr's data are rich for blackmail. (Consider: images and messages sent and received within 100 feet of Capitol Hill.) It was recently acquired by an offshore billionaire [1]. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-12/china-tec...

Another data point on why you should not take money or sell your business to Chinese investors. Their price points for pricing companies is strange (e.g. a lot higher than western pricing) and it would make sense that they're doing it for other, perhaps more nefarious, reasons.

If I’m selling my company and a Chinese buyer offers me more, I’m not going to turn him down just because he’s Chinese.

Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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So vending HIV status is a straight up HIPAA violation, I'm fairly sure that's been found to be the case over and over again -- it doesn't matter what your business is, health information is covered by HIPAA. That's 250k per violation fine, and leaking status positive or negative is a violation. And every person, and every time they pass that information to every "partner" is a distinct violation.

If an acquaintance tells me he has AIDS and I tell someone else, am I in violation of HIPAA?

Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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post #151

So vending HIV status is a straight up HIPAA violation, I'm fairly sure that's been found to be the case over and over again -- it doesn't matter what your business is, health information is covered by HIPAA. That's 250k per violation fine, and leaking status positive or negative is a violation. And every person, and every time they pass that information to every "partner" is a distinct violation.

> So vending HIV status is a straight up HIPAA violation

If the vendor is a HIPAA covered entity, which Grindr isn't.

> it doesn't matter what your business is,

Yes, it does.

> health information is covered by HIPAA.

PHI held by HIPAA covered entity or by a business associate on behalf of such an entity, sure. Health information shared by the subject outside of a healthcare context, OTOH...

Re: Grindr Shares Personal Information With Third-Parties

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> The Mafia didn’t particularly like gays, but they ran all of the gay bars because it gave them the opportunity to blackmail their patrons Source? Curious to read more about this.

The "Stuff you should know" podcast discussed that on the stonewall uprising episode. Blackmail probably existed but it was just a great opportunity to sell drugs and booze in illegal bars.

More than that... Bars are great targets for mafia types. My grandfather ran a bar in NYC in the 40s-70s... Any business concession other than the phone company was mob controlled. The cigarette machine, jukebox, tap cleaner, pinball, ice was mob controlled.

When you hit the nadir of NYC in the 70s, it was difficult to make sales tax payments with all of the leeches attached to the business.

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