Apple Plans to Use Its Own Chips in Macs from 2020, Replacing Intel

Post by jasonlotito » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:27 PM UTC

Stranger43 wrote: post #213

Have anyone checked with adobe and autodesk if this essentially kills the professional mac workstation as a viable product going forward? I have no doubt they can make it fast and usable enough for the naive consumer living inside the bubble of what relatively inexpensive(consumer grade) app-store apps can do and that microsoft will release something pretending to be MS office for a new ARM macbook line, but photosho…

Post by tinus_hn » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:28 PM UTC

pvg wrote: post #141

danaliv wrote: post #77

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And before that they successfully managed the transition from m68k to PPC. The processor doesn't matter.

It does matter that the new processor is a lot more powerful and faster than the old processor. This wouldn't be the case this time.

Post by madez » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:28 PM UTC

criddell wrote: post #257

mark_l_watson wrote: post #229

This might just be a bargaining move on Apple’s part, but I don’t think so. I think that long term they are much better off controlling their entire hardware stack. I wouldn’t be surprised to even see them make their own display screens. As an Apple customer, I like this idea also. For 20 years, I used to be a desktop Linux fanatic and later became a fan of Android. In the last few years, I have switched to using all…

The only thing I have a hard time trusting Intel with is the way they have handled questions around their Management Engine. I think they have done a poor job convincing us that it's safe or at least benign. It will be interesting to see if Apple includes a secretive management engine. If they do, then the speculation that it's required by one or more governments will be dialed up to 11.

Post by TheCoreh » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:29 PM UTC

otterley wrote: post #194

jernfrost wrote: post #176

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That would definitely be an interesting and very surprising development. Like I would really like to hear Apple's rational for developing an x86 CPU. x86 is a far more complex CPU architecture which they have zero experience in making. ARM in contrast they have experience with all the way back to Newton, and it has a nice licensing preposition. I can't see them doing something different than ARM and x86. That would b…

> x86 really has nothing going for it architecture wise. It just has a market because Intel makes fast chips that run existing software. People buy computers to run software. If they can't run their existing software on it, the computer has no value. Just like with the original PPC-to-Intel transition, where Apple provided a PPC emulator on Intel, if they go with ARM, Apple will have to provide Intel-to-ARM translati…

Post by edude03 » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 7:29 PM UTC

thothamon wrote: post #193

Well. We'll see what they do, but Apple had better be very careful. If a lot of OSS software won't run on Apple's new chip, then it becomes very hard for a software developer like myself to stick with Apple. And it is developer energy that sustains the software ecosystem for Apple....including many developers who are in the Mac ecosystem to develop for iOS. This is not necessarily the wrong move for Apple, but it is…