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Re: The End of Windows

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Post by isostatic »

plopz wrote: post #262
isostatic wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reason windows is so popular in the home market is because it was in the 90s. businesses bought windows/office, and people brought the floppies home, which led to schools following suit, which lead to a generation thinking windows = computers.

I grew up in the 90s and 00s and schools were all Apple but homes and businesses were all Windows

Yes, on paper Apple was the future -- kids were learning it at school, and thus would recommend it and require it both at home, and then in the office a decade later.

However Microsoft capitalised on their position in the office, and it was far cheaper to buy a fully functioning computer at home with a copy of windows and office from work. Then schools were under pressure to provide what was normal.

Piracy made windows what it is.

Re: The End of Windows

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Post by MichaelGG »

bayindirh wrote: post #381
zanny wrote: post #375

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As someone who reads text all day, going up to a 27" 150 PPI monitor was huge . There is a tangible improvement in how that text looks, especially on an accurately colored monitor. The other footnote should be that display prices have been crashing recently. You can get an IPS 24" FHD monitor for like $90, and a QHD version at 27" for about $150. Those would have been twice as expensive a few years ago. That being sa…

> As someone who reads text all day, going up to a 27" 150 PPI monitor was huge. You're right, however not everyone has the same desktop space to accomodate a 27" panel. I can barely fit a 24" on my desk. 1440p monitors start at 25". > The other footnote should be that display prices have been crashing recently. When I was in the US at the end of 2014, one of my friends said the same thing about flash drives when I p…

Lenovo still sells 768p screens in their high end X-series laptops including the very recent X280.

Re: The End of Windows

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Post by squarefoot »

bhauer wrote: post #243
cpeterso wrote: post #206

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You can see a nice graph showing (Firefox) users steadily upgrading from Windows 7 to 10 from Mozilla's Firefox telemetry: https://hardware.metrics.mozilla.com/#goto-os-and-architectu...

That hardware report is surprising to me in many ways. * In 2018, the most popular resolution for users of Firefox is still 1366x768. And only 1920x1080 is making any headway against the dominance of 1366x768. As much as I am surrounded by the culture of multiple 4K+ displays, apparently this is not at all commonplace. 4K doesn't even get listed, presumably lumped into the "Other" category. * In 2018, the most popula…

"I can barely conceive of the poor experience of running a modern web browser on 4 GB of memory at 1366x768."

I've used for years a CoreDuo system+4GB with Firefox then PaleMoon playing videos in FullHD on 23 and 27 inches monitors, and never got even close to hit the swap partition unless I was running virtual machines or heavy games. Now I'm on a i5 Debian+XFCE with 8gigs, one Waterfox (privacy oriented Firefox derivative, thanks to the HN user who pointed me at it) instance with 4 tabs opened and a shell with 2 tabs; here's free output:

  ~$ free
                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
  Mem:        8037636     1194044     4182928      187332     2660664     6555172
  Swap:       8249340           0     8249340
And this one while watching a 1080p Youtube video at fullscreen.

  ~$ free
                total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
  Mem:        8037636     1453204     3761776      280824     2822656     6202520
  Swap:       8249340           0     8249340
The operating system probably makes a difference [1], but anyway Firefox runs perfectly on 4 gigs or less. That RAM amount is plenty if well used.

  [1] ~$ uname -svo
  Linux #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u5 (2017-09-19) GNU/Linux
  (a bit older RT kernel needed for low latency audio)

Re: The End of Windows

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Post by StanislavPetrov »

Viper007Bond wrote: post #410
StanislavPetrov wrote: post #400

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I've been using 2560x1080 for almost a year now and will never go back. 21:9 is the way to go.

What size is that? I run a 34" 3440x1440 21:9 and it's nearly a bit too wide. EDIT: https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-SWIFT-PG3... 100Hz is awesome, even for just browsing the web.

Its 29". I've had many monitors, both bigger and smaller, and this is by far the best I've had for gaming and everything else.

Exact model:

http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-29UM68-P-ultrawide-monitor

Re: The End of Windows

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Post by lucaspottersky »

gaius wrote: post #278

The end of Windows is the year of the Linux desktop

Linux desktop will never thrive. I'm sorry to tell you that.

it's more likely that some other player just releases a completely new OS to replace Windows. just like Chrome replaced IE (and not Firefox).

Re: The End of Windows

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Post by gaius »

lucaspottersky wrote: post #416
gaius wrote: post #278

The end of Windows is the year of the Linux desktop

Linux desktop will never thrive. I'm sorry to tell you that. it's more likely that some other player just releases a completely new OS to replace Windows. just like Chrome replaced IE (and not Firefox).

Linux desktop will never com

Exactly.

Re: The End of Windows

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Post by Avery3R »

cptskippy wrote: post #197
mschuster91 wrote: post #151

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> With each release of Windows 10 they introduce a bunch of new crappy apps that are completely forgettable AND they improve a core feature silently. And with every shift towards ads or trying to force a mobile-first UI on a desktop/laptop, they alienate users off of it. I switched to OS X as soon as I saw the writing on the wall with Win8 (and Wine on OS X got stable enough to play GTA San Andreas, tbh). Also, I won…

> And with every shift towards ads You mean like Apple asking me to use iCloud every single time I unlock my Mac? Or every time I power on my test iOS devices? Or do you mean up I have to open the App Store to apply MacOS updates and click past the ads? Windows 10 adds some shortcuts to the start menu during the bi-annual updates, they're annoying but once they're deleted they don't come back. They also have an add i…

Win 8.1 does require UWP apps to be fullscreen. Win 10 does not.

Re: The End of Windows

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Post by [deleted] »

cptskippy wrote: post #318
saiya-jin wrote: post #282

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that's... not what most users want. even as a dev myself, I understand most people want just freedom and no hassle, OS to be there in the background, not creating narrow allowed alley for its own users. will keep my Win7 for as long as hardware and software keeps running. don-t expect much more from OS honestly

> that's... not what most users want. even as a dev myself, I understand most people want just freedom and no hassle, OS to be there in the background, not creating narrow allowed alley for its own users. Android and iOS have demonstrably shown that most users don't value freedom as long as the OS works for their needs. Most users are security nightmares as IT Admins and relatives supporting family members can attest…

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Re: The End of Windows

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Post by urda »

mediocrejoker wrote: post #86

What I don't understand is, with Apple and Microsoft moving to "services" business-models, who do they see as providing the hardware for this future they envision? I don't think we are near the point where either laptops or phones are a commodity. If nobody want to make hardware their first priority, how is anyone going to ensure the best experience for the customers using their serviceS?

What's your citation or evidence to Apple moving to a "services" business-model? They are hardware focused, so that's not a correct statement.
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