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Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by somebehemoth »

robotrout wrote: post #158
digitaltrees wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't Democrats offer to fund the boarder wall in exchange for a DACA bill? What more compromise is there?

No, they did not. Trump's offer was made for the nation to hear, during the State of the Union. You should watch it again.

Except they actually did:

"The president picked a number for the wall, and I accepted it,” Schumer recalled in the midst of the shutdown. He had agreed to a significant sum of money for the wall—reported to be $20 billion, ... The White House ultimately rejected the offer, and later that night, Senate Democrats withheld their votes for a stopgap spending bill."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/democra...

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by creaghpatr »

wanderer2323 wrote: post #153
Bud wrote: post #117

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This actually isn't remotely comparable to what Sinclair is doing. Not remotely. I am tempted to say that you know it's not comparable and that you're simply outright lying, but I'll restrain myself, and instead just note that you're completely and outrageously incorrect. CNN is not dictating what its personnel report and it's certainly not coordinating forced fake "reporting" in unison by dozens of TV stations, or f…

>CNN is not dictating what its personnel report this is incredibly naive. >it's certainly not coordinating forced fake "reporting" CNN itself may not be the coordination center, but leftist media does coordinate its reporting, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JournoList

Not to mention rigging the presidential debates by providing the questions ahead of time to its chosen campaign.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by astrodust »

state_less wrote: post #155
ModernMech wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All news is based. Anyone telling you otherwise (that they are fair and balanced and unbiased) is lying to you. I don't need CNN to explicitly tell me their biases, because they are not my only source of news. It's not CNN's job to make sure i get unbiased news. It my job to make sense of biased news and weave it into a consistent mental model of the world. This let's me do things like watch CNN and Fox News and reco…

> All news is based. The truth isn't biased, so if the news reports the truth, "x said y" and we have evidence that x said y, then it is not biased and therefore all new is NOT biased.

What truth you choose to report is biased. News can be biased by selective disclosure.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by mejari »

ravenstine wrote: post #157
ModernMech wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All news is based. Anyone telling you otherwise (that they are fair and balanced and unbiased) is lying to you. I don't need CNN to explicitly tell me their biases, because they are not my only source of news. It's not CNN's job to make sure i get unbiased news. It my job to make sense of biased news and weave it into a consistent mental model of the world. This let's me do things like watch CNN and Fox News and reco…

If all news is biased, why bother watching any it?

Because nothing in the world is perfect, and by acknowledging that you and others all have implicit and explicit biases you can use your critical thinking skills to learn about the world without blindly accepting other people's biases as your own?

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Post by digitaltrees »

robotrout wrote: post #158
digitaltrees wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't Democrats offer to fund the boarder wall in exchange for a DACA bill? What more compromise is there?

No, they did not. Trump's offer was made for the nation to hear, during the State of the Union. You should watch it again.

Yes they did. A 3 second search would provide plenty of support for the fact that Democrats and Republicans have offered funding for the wall in exchange for certain DACA and immigration reforms.

1. http://azdailysun.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/a-time...

2. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-23/schumer-withdraws-...

Just because Trump offered something doesn't mean Democrats didn't also offer something.

Further, Trump says a lot of things, he contradicts himself constantly, some times in the same sentence, so we can act like his statement in the state of the union was some ironclad agreement.

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by sampleinajar »

irrational wrote: post #71
rambojazz wrote: post #14

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- people trust local media - a single corporation owns a fuckton of those local stations - the same corporation writes a script to broadcast on every station - media hosts or journalists can't say "no". Do the job or lose your job. They're not free to report news without bias - you don't know everything about everything, so you're inclined to trust the news because they're supposed to be neutral and report facts - ul…

"They're not free to report news without bias... they're supposed to be neutral and report facts" I know I sound cynical, but does any thinking person actually believe that? That strikes me as incredibly naive.

It is cynical, but it's also very common now to believe that, and that is very dangerous to democracy. The level of distrust of anything and everything seems to be at an all time high. The idea that one large corporation is using their power to further that distrust should cause pause, or at least some questioning about motives.

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Post by dahdum »

bradleyankrom wrote: post #154
dahdum wrote: post #139

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Democrats should be willing to compromise because they value the DACA fix more than their opposition to border funding. They are instead doing the same thing Republicans did to Obama, refusing to compromise in order to whip up their base. Any politician that compromises an inch these days will be portrayed as an immoral enemy and attacked by some vocal part of their own base.

Ds were gonna give him ALL of the border wall money that he wanted - like $25B - and he still backed out.

They didn’t want to budge on chain migration or the lottery, Trump ran on both those so wasn’t going to budge either. He didn’t back out so much as never get in.

Wish congress would have moved forward and put a bill on his desk, despite his statements he would have had to sign it or lose face.

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Post by ModernMech »

state_less wrote: post #155
ModernMech wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All news is based. Anyone telling you otherwise (that they are fair and balanced and unbiased) is lying to you. I don't need CNN to explicitly tell me their biases, because they are not my only source of news. It's not CNN's job to make sure i get unbiased news. It my job to make sense of biased news and weave it into a consistent mental model of the world. This let's me do things like watch CNN and Fox News and reco…

> All news is based. The truth isn't biased, so if the news reports the truth, "x said y" and we have evidence that x said y, then it is not biased and therefore all new is NOT biased.

You still think the truth is objective after a year+ living in this alternative fact world? There is no such thing as a "truth" anymore. Even cold hard figures are negotiable. Remember "The employment rate was fake news before but it's very real now"

Re: Sinclair Made Dozens of Local News Anchors Recite the Same Script

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Post by state_less »

mejari wrote: post #167
state_less wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All news is based. The truth isn't biased, so if the news reports the truth, "x said y" and we have evidence that x said y, then it is not biased and therefore all new is NOT biased.

That's not true at all. If I say "x said y", and don't tell you that "y said z", then that is biased, while telling you only the truth.

That's called a lie by omission, so in such a case, if you wanted to tell the truth, you'd have to include "y said z" or you'd be lying.
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