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DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

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Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#11
post #9

https://pulse.turbobytes.com/results/5ac1f967ecbe4078c200ee4... Cloudflare consistently times out from these networks. Netherlands - AS13127 Philippines - AS135132 Thailand - AS17552 (One of the largest consumer internet providers) US - AS7018 (AT&T)

Probably some smart people working there using 1.1.1.1 for internal stuff instead of one of the reserved subnets (private or "for documentation").

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#13
post #9

https://pulse.turbobytes.com/results/5ac1f967ecbe4078c200ee4... Cloudflare consistently times out from these networks. Netherlands - AS13127 Philippines - AS135132 Thailand - AS17552 (One of the largest consumer internet providers) US - AS7018 (AT&T)

I'm sure this is because 1.1.1.1 does not work everywhere well. Maybe with 1.0.0.1 it will work more reliable.

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#14
post #7
post #3

I wasn't aware of Quad9, it seems like a pretty great option for those that are easy targets of scams/phishing.

Quad9 is supported/funded by City Of London Police, the same police that cooperates with ad companies to track people online. https://www.theguardian.com/media-network/media-network-blog... Keep away from this.

Actually Quad9 seems to be a non-profit, founded by IBM, PCH and GCA (of which the City of London Police is a founder).

The simple fact that it's supported by the CoLP doesn't seem sufficient to point out that Quad9 should be avoided since it will track people online.

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#15
post #6

It would be more interesting to see how are they doing for some websites in the long tail, try the 900th, 9000th, and 90000th most popular sites instead of the top. And try some locations which are not actual datacenters?

And test consistency. Stddev, and get the worst results from 1000 runs.

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#16
post #8
post #4

dig +noall +stats @1.0.0.1 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @1.1.1.1 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @208.67.220.220 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @208.67.222.222 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @8.8.4.4 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @8.8.8.8 news.ycombinator.com Fixed? =P I removed some of the records form the article after reading some of the comments here. Cloudflare, Goo…

You should be doing `dig @1.1.1.1 news.ycombinator.com`

That resolves "news.ycombinator.com" and "1.1.1.1" with your system resolver.

You're looking for "dig @1.1.1.1 news.ycombinator.com" which will resolve "news.ycombinator.com" using "1.1.1.1".

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#17
post #9

https://pulse.turbobytes.com/results/5ac1f967ecbe4078c200ee4... Cloudflare consistently times out from these networks. Netherlands - AS13127 Philippines - AS135132 Thailand - AS17552 (One of the largest consumer internet providers) US - AS7018 (AT&T)

I'm sure this is because 1.1.1.1 does not work everywhere well. Maybe with 1.0.0.1 it will work more reliable.

Yep you are right right.

    ~# mtr --report --address 192.168.2.2 1.1.1.1
    Start: Mon Apr  2 16:53:31 2018
    HOST: apu                         Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
      1.|-- 192.168.2.1                0.0%    10    0.9   1.1   0.9   1.2   0.0
      2.|-- 10.137.128.1               0.0%    10   11.3  12.8  10.7  17.1   1.8
      3.|-- 10.246.253.133             0.0%    10    7.7   8.2   7.5   9.1   0.0
      4.|-- 10.185.94.203              0.0%    10    9.1   8.4   6.9   9.4   0.6
      5.|-- 10.185.94.25               0.0%    10    9.5   8.7   7.7  10.0   0.5
      6.|-- 61-91-220-101.static.asia  0.0%    10   11.7  11.7   8.6  25.7   5.2
      7.|-- 58-97-82-116.static.asian  0.0%    10   10.7  10.2   8.6  15.4   1.9
      8.|-- ppp-171-102-254-81.revip1  0.0%    10    9.2   9.2   7.1  10.8   0.9
      9.|-- ppp-171-102-250-134.revip  0.0%    10    8.4  10.0   8.4  11.3   0.7
     10.|-- ppp-171-102-250-149.revip  0.0%    10    9.0   9.7   9.0  10.9   0.3
     11.|-- ???                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0
    ~# mtr --report --address 192.168.2.2 1.0.0.1
    Start: Mon Apr  2 16:54:05 2018
    HOST: apu                         Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
      1.|-- 192.168.2.1                0.0%    10    1.2   1.1   0.8   1.3   0.0
      2.|-- 10.137.128.1               0.0%    10   12.1  12.8   9.2  18.2   2.4
      3.|-- 10.246.253.133             0.0%    10    9.8   9.0   7.5  14.7   2.0
      4.|-- 10.185.94.203              0.0%    10    4.4   7.9   4.4   8.8   1.2
      5.|-- 10.185.94.17               0.0%    10    9.2   9.1   7.2  10.3   0.9
      6.|-- 61-91-220-55.static.asian  0.0%    10    9.7  10.6   8.0  17.2   2.6
      7.|-- 58-97-82-120.static.asian  0.0%    10   10.5   9.7   8.2  11.2   0.7
      8.|-- ppp-171-102-254-65.revip1  0.0%    10   10.5   9.7   8.8  10.7   0.0
      9.|-- ppp-171-102-254-227.revip  0.0%    10    8.9  13.1   8.8  44.0  10.8
     10.|-- 61-91-213-130.static.asia  0.0%    10   10.9   9.8   8.3  10.9   0.6
     11.|-- TIG-Net242-40.trueinterga  0.0%    10   15.0  14.1  10.9  16.1   1.8
     12.|-- TIG-Net245-243.trueinterg  0.0%    10   38.1  38.0  36.4  40.6   0.9
     13.|-- 13335.sgw.equinix.com      0.0%    10   37.4  38.6  36.4  48.5   3.5
     14.|-- 1dot1dot1dot1.cloudflare-  0.0%    10   36.9  36.3  35.0  36.9   0.5
Edit: Formating

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#18
post #7
post #3

I wasn't aware of Quad9, it seems like a pretty great option for those that are easy targets of scams/phishing.

Quad9 is supported/funded by City Of London Police, the same police that cooperates with ad companies to track people online. https://www.theguardian.com/media-network/media-network-blog... Keep away from this.

Interesting question: would I rather protect my elderly Mum from known malicious domains potentially trying to scam/phish, or from potential tracking and ad targeting?

(Actually, it's not really a difficult choice at all, is it?)

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#19
post #6

It would be more interesting to see how are they doing for some websites in the long tail, try the 900th, 9000th, and 90000th most popular sites instead of the top. And try some locations which are not actual datacenters?

And test consistency. Stddev, and get the worst results from 1000 runs.

Worst result can be an outlier, maybe better to use the 95th percentile or something.

Re: DNS Performance compared: CloudFlare 1.1.1.1 x Google 8.8.8.8 x Quad9 x OpenDNS

#20
post #8
post #4

dig +noall +stats @1.0.0.1 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @1.1.1.1 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @208.67.220.220 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @208.67.222.222 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @8.8.4.4 news.ycombinator.com; dig +noall +stats @8.8.8.8 news.ycombinator.com Fixed? =P I removed some of the records form the article after reading some of the comments here. Cloudflare, Goo…

You should be doing `dig @1.1.1.1 news.ycombinator.com`

Sorry, I've downvoted you (even though you're not being offensive in any way) because your incorrect command will confuse a bunch of people.

EDIT: fixed, so I've undowned

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