Facebook Secretly Saved Videos Users Deleted

Post by schrep » Sun, Apr 01, 2018, 10:26 PM UTC

CapacitorSet wrote: post #310

benwilber0 wrote: post #154

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I agree with you. At Facebook-scale the data is massive -- far bigger than anyone here could possibly comprehend and that includes the Facebook and Google-ers lurking around. Data has incredible inertia. And when there's a lot of it, in a lot of different places, I can imagine that it becomes very difficult to keep track of. I'm glad that Facebook's data export tool included some things that maybe it didn't expect to…

>I can imagine that it becomes very difficult to keep track of. The GDPR prompted them to make the data resurface, so it's not impossible to track this data given a few months of warning. It's just that Facebook as a company does not have an interest in deleting data they collected.

Post by meddlepal » Sun, Apr 01, 2018, 11:41 PM UTC

traskjd wrote: post #249

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Allow me to ask the obvious question. Who doesn't do the something like this? Not to alleviate facebook of blame, but who's to say data on almost every other social media service isn't also just flagged for deletion?

We don't soft delete payloads at Raygun ( https://raygun.com ), for the very fact that typically if one of our customers wants to delete something it's because they might have sent something they don't want a third party to have. We have filters and other PII filtering tools etc, but it every now and then something might be sent by mistake. Having said that, you'd be amazed how often folks ask for things to be undele…

Post by astrange » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 1:52 AM UTC

pwg wrote: post #311

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> Facebook and other services do not actually delete data, they just mark it as "deleted" and purge it only if they need the space. You may be correct, but that doesn't explain why Facebook decided to include so-called deleted files in a download of user data. Clearly these deleted files are still a part of Facebook user profiles and accessible to company data mining software. Facebook has exposed their own duplicity…

> but that doesn't explain why Facebook decided to include so-called deleted files in a download of user data. This happened because the person tasked with writing the code to build the archive forgot to include the filter for "deleted" records somewhere in the code. I.e., they forgot the "where is_deleted = false" part below on one or more DB query requests like this: select * from table where is_deleted = false; Th…

Post by adamnemecek » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 2:30 AM UTC

wemdyjreichert wrote: post #387

And this is why I never signed up for social media in the first place. Remember the afage about stuff on the internet never really going away? Yeah, it's true. Another interesting note: some friends hiring in Austin, TX have told me they can't hire in town because almost every kid has a social media containing drunk pics.

Post by rifung » Mon, Apr 02, 2018, 2:56 AM UTC

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FWIW, Facebook does say that they will delete all of your data within 90 days of account deletion. I believe that indicates that they've put the engineering effort to do a full audit of data to be deleted, handle missing references across the product, and to fully delete user data from logs and backups. From https://www.facebook.com/help/250563911970368 : > When you delete your account, people won't be able to see it…

Fucking stupid policy - so they have 90 days to off load your shit to Utah/gov-cloud before they “delete” your data? Who can possibly believe this BS. Imagine you wanted to delete data of your own Sustem - but when you hit rm it takes 90 days to execute - this sentiment PISSES me off. When I say “delete me from your service now” I have a reasonable expectation that you will delete it. C’mon