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> Anything submitted to Facebook is the property of Facebook. I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion. Are we to accept that this is how it works simply because Facebook says this is how it works?
You accept that when you join.
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There's nothing there which clarifies that "delete" isn't a euphemism for "flag it to no longer be displayed to users" like it is everywhere else where companies collect data on users, so you'll excuse my skepticism.
Exactly and they have the perfect excuse: "Well when talking about deleting we mean we do the exact same thing the file system does to a file, it flags it, but doesn't actually erase it's content. Acting like a filesystem delete operation is what people expect when using that word"
You mean they follow what many people consider best practices? https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1592... https://stackoverflow.com/questions/820466/never-delete-entr... https://serverfault.com/questions/31455/should-i-ever-delete... https://www.infoq.com/news/2009/09/Do-Not-Delete-Data http://udidahan.com/2009/09/01/dont-delete-just-dont/ https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2549839/are-soft-dele…
That said, Facebook is who is just getting collectively stabbed with the pitchfork right now. Engineering best practices are one thing. My right to privacy is another. As an engineer I care about efficiency. As a human I care about privacy. My rights win over any technocratic babble. Sorry if I am being harsh. I am, of course not surprised. Engineers are lazy at best and at worst, something truly sinister is brewing.
It is a great tool for keeping up with friends, it allows to cultivate friendships a lot easier than anything before. We can have a lot of friends when we don't keep secrets, because by being open with your weaknesses you create new friend, not an enemy. You create enemies with secrets and lies.
One fascinating outcome of all this fallout is that there's now a readymade excuse to stop using Facebook. My personal observations are that a good number of people have felt 'fatigued' by Facebook for a very long time, but were also unsure of how best to extricate themselves without incurring a social penalty. But now there's an impetus that most people can understand. I'm not sure about how many people will move aw…
I think I have an idea of what might have happened.
When you add a video to the composer window
One of the requests is https://vupload-edge.facebook.com/ajax/video/upload/requests... (Look it up in the network tab of whatever browser dev tool you are using)
With the response as,
for (;;);{"__ar":1,"payload":{"video_id":"11111111111111","start_offset":0,"end_offset":353662,"skip_upload":false},"bootloadable":{},"ixData":{},"gkxData":{},"lid":"1"}
The video 11111111111111 is now in an "unpublished" state. "unpublished" here meaning it's uploaded to Facebook but not linked to a post yet.
You can verify this by taking that ID and doing the following
https://www.facebook.com/11111111111111/ -> redirects to https://www.facebook.com/phwd/11111111111111/
"Sorry, this content isn't available right now"
Your options now are to either discard the post or publish with a privacy setting which will make the link above available. (Notice I didn't say discard the video, the video is still in an unpublished state)
Now for the archive.
You can verify by going to view-source:fb.com/me in a browser Search for the string "access_token" there will be a long string appended. (e.g. access_token:"EAAAAU...)
With that token go to your archive and roll over one of the links in the video section that has an issue and doesn't appear in the activity log.
file:///Users/phwd/Desktop/facebook-phwd-from-zip/videos/11111111111111.mp4
grab the ID 11111111111111 and do the following
https://graph.facebook.com/11111111111111?access_token=THE_T...
That shows an unpublished video for me, it wouldn't show in your activity log (that's the only part of the story I can agree and can confirm with what I have available)
To delete add the method=delete to the request.
https://graph.facebook.com/v2.9/11111111111111?method=delete...
Response should be
{ "success": true }
The next part would be to verify that the video is deleted from the archive. Since Facebook is still giving me the first download zip, I guess I'll have to wait a while (it's 1 am here so I'm heading to bed) until it resets so I can make it build a new archive and confirm the hunch.
This is just my guess, I'm NOT discounting what the Facebook user encountered. I'm just providing a possible background to how it can happen as well as a solution to deleting the "deleted" video. There is also the chance I might be wrong...
References to confirm for yourself. developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/video
Disclosure: I don't work for Facebook, however, I do play with their API a bit.
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I honestly don't understand this cynicism. Facebook does not want your deleted video, and they certainly don't want to keep it given the current media frenzy, with the CEO under fire. Every application of any complexity has features which inactivate, but don't delete data. At Facebook scale, deleting data is non-trivial, and it would be impossible to immediately delete something. We all have bugs, including extremely…
I agree with you. At Facebook-scale the data is massive -- far bigger than anyone here could possibly comprehend and that includes the Facebook and Google-ers lurking around. Data has incredible inertia. And when there's a lot of it, in a lot of different places, I can imagine that it becomes very difficult to keep track of. I'm glad that Facebook's data export tool included some things that maybe it didn't expect to…
I don't care. I stopped caring about my privacy. Nobody will hurt me by knowing too much about me. Facebook can have all of my life, because nothing is private for me. It is a great tool for keeping up with friends, it allows to cultivate friendships a lot easier than anything before. We can have a lot of friends when we don't keep secrets, because by being open with your weaknesses you create new friend, not an enem…