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OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by lsc »

lsc wrote: post #120
truetraveller wrote: post #28

Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

>-they use OpenStack (Yay!). Unforuntely, they have a confusing implementation of OpenStack dashboard, AND on a separate site, with separate credentials. can you point me at a not-so-confusing implementation of OpenStack?

I'm (mostly) not being snide... this is actually relevant to my interests (and yours, if you want to buy a certain kind of OpenStack services)

My own impression as a SysAdmin is that OpenStack is incredibly overcomplex, and that you want Ganeti instead. I mean, this is from the SysAdmin side, setting up and maintaining the cluster. Ganeti clusters are setup by one person. OpenStack clusters are giant IBM-esqe projects where you switch consulting firms at least twice before completion.

Of course, on the end user side, it's a different thing, and having a consistent api to code against has a multitude of benefits.

so I'm super interested in what users who are enthusiastic about (and paying for services from) service providers who provide service using openstack. I'm especially interested in how much of the openstack api is exposed to the user and how.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by t1o5 »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #33
truetraveller wrote: post #28

Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

> website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. No, not a European thing. They are just special.

Ah a French company with one of their DC in Quebec. What could go wrong ?

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by t1o5 »

truetraveller wrote: post #48
pzduniak wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UI is good enough to set up the storage once and then not ever touch it again. I also enjoy when it randomly switches to French.

That is correct. But it's those times when you need to interact with the dashboard or billing that makes you cringe. I run a business, I can't "afford" that headache. And true about the random French switching.

Re: Random French switching

Maybe you are using their Quebec DC. (Bill 101)

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by sds357 »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #33
truetraveller wrote: post #28

Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

> website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. No, not a European thing. They are just special.

Probably had GoDaddy's crew build it on the side

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by celticninja »

PedroBatista wrote: post #165
truetraveller wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the rationale for credits. However, in true OVH fashion, credits is way more confusing than it has to be. The invoice is also confusing. Not a simple "you bought this, you owe this". But it has deductions, subtractions, additions, sub-totals, credits, etc. I am not an accountant!

That's pretty basic stuff for any adult person, no accountant needed.

Whilst you could check the bill each month and do these calculations do you really want to spend anytime doing that for a server costing $3.50 a month? Anytime spent checking it is a false economy.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by manigandham »

eric_b wrote: post #142
mprev wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why the quote marks around acquired?

StackPath came out of nowhere. As far as I could tell at the time, they didn't have any public products. And all of a sudden they bought MaxCDN. I could never tell if it was actually an acquisition or more of a merger or something else?

Stackpath is from the founder of Softlayer. Raised private equity money and acquired several companies including MaxCDN to start a new service. The subbrands still exist but are slowly migrating and will refer you to the stackpath products.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/07/25/security-as-a-service-star...

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by esistgut »

truetraveller wrote: post #28

Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

I share most of your toughts, they really should put some real effort in UX. Example: domains informations are linked to user accounts, if you want to edit registrant, administrative or technical contacts you are required to create full OVH user profiles.

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Post by ksec »

tedivm wrote: post #86
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #43

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What's the best cdn right now? Cloudfront is just expensive as hell.

Alright, I'll go through the list. * Cloudfront would be great for the North America and Europe they only charged for the bandwidth (those prices are reasonable), but charging for the HTTP request (and the huge premium on HTTPS). The bandwidth prices outside of those areas are absolutely awful though. * Akamai makes Cloudfront look cheap. * Cloudflare has ethical concerns that keep me away from them. * Fastly is susc…

I came to pretty much the same conclusion a few years ago, Edgecast was my favourite, until Verizon bought them. I dont know if there are any changes, but I have yet to see big acquisition that dont mess up the company.

Limelight was my favourite before I discovered Edgecast, the only problem is Limelight no longer does business with small companies and no more reseller / PAYG model. Which means basically most of us cant use them. But I didn't know Goldman Sachs bought them? And destroy them?

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Post by m3adow »

QUFB wrote: post #15

I run https://wtfismyip.com on OVH. Egress bandwidth exceeds 8TB a month, which on AWS could cost ~$1000/month, not including the cost of the beefy EC2 instance I would need. For some bandwidth heavy use cases, OVH makes a lot more sense than AWS. In my case it was $150/month versus $2000/month (bandwidth + EC2).

I just wanted to thank you. I've used your site so many times in personal scripts.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Post by e12e »

Widdershin wrote: post #180
e12e wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So..8tb vs 4tb? If paying for bw.. Seems reasonable?

The gzip version is actually the larger of the two.

Indeed. Missed it because of required side-scrolling on mobile.
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