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OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

Have you ever looked at online.net?

And what's esoteric design?

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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I would have said MaxCDN, but they recently got "acquired" by StackPath, so who knows what direction that's going.

Why the quote marks around acquired?

StackPath came out of nowhere. As far as I could tell at the time, they didn't have any public products. And all of a sudden they bought MaxCDN. I could never tell if it was actually an acquisition or more of a merger or something else?

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

#143

Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

An upvote wasn't enough - I REALLY wanted to work with OVH but their various web portals can't seem to even consistently remember your country or language, billing is a nightmare, etc. One of the few experiences I've had in life where they made working with them (and giving them money) so impossible I began to wonder if they're a front or money laundering operation. To be clear on that point I know they aren't and I'…

I was able to ignore the UX because I just needed a small box for OpenVPN and Caddy.

I could not however continue using them once they asked me to verify my identity after a month of usage.

I was paying $3.50 per month.

No other hosting provider has asked me for that kind of information.

With that stupid move, they lost a customer for life.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

#144

Important notes about OVH: -I'm a customer for about ~2 years. -I was "just" using OVH object storage, and was considering other OVH services. -I'm all about "cheap,cheap,cheap" -OVH is super-cheap, which is good. -I want OVH to "win". OVH doesn't want to "win". Because.. -OVH is super-confusing. Interface, website, billing, everything. -website uses esoteric design conventions. A European thing? I don't know. -feels…

Have you ever looked at online.net? And what's esoteric design?

I had very bad experience with physical server at online.net. One time I noticed that my server did not return from reboot. I logged into KVM and discovered that both my SSD drives failed and need replacement.

I immediately backed up all my data and created ticket. I wait for I day. I wait for 2 days. After three days (all this time my server was offline) I got answer "we can't replace your drives and can't replace your server because we do not have stock. And you can wait for end of the month for new server".

Isn't it brilliant? :(

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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What's the best cdn right now? Cloudfront is just expensive as hell.

Alright, I'll go through the list. * Cloudfront would be great for the North America and Europe they only charged for the bandwidth (those prices are reasonable), but charging for the HTTP request (and the huge premium on HTTPS). The bandwidth prices outside of those areas are absolutely awful though. * Akamai makes Cloudfront look cheap. * Cloudflare has ethical concerns that keep me away from them. * Fastly is susc…

What are the ethical concerns with Cloudflare?

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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post #143

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An upvote wasn't enough - I REALLY wanted to work with OVH but their various web portals can't seem to even consistently remember your country or language, billing is a nightmare, etc. One of the few experiences I've had in life where they made working with them (and giving them money) so impossible I began to wonder if they're a front or money laundering operation. To be clear on that point I know they aren't and I'…

I was able to ignore the UX because I just needed a small box for OpenVPN and Caddy. I could not however continue using them once they asked me to verify my identity after a month of usage. I was paying $3.50 per month. No other hosting provider has asked me for that kind of information. With that stupid move, they lost a customer for life.

Try living in Eastern Europe. Digital Ocean did that to me when I opened the account more than 5 years ago.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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AWS bandwidth costs are obscene. They compete on price so well on most other fronts, but for some reason they just completely overcharge on bandwidth. It makes using them without a CDN cost prohibitive and drives a lot of use cases away from them.

What's the best cdn right now? Cloudfront is just expensive as hell.

Cloudflare. Cheap, fast and powerful. They seem to be doing everything right, as evidenced by all the growth and great features in a single package. It's rather surprising the other vendors aren't doing anything to even catch up.

If you need more control, than Fastly is very technical, although the recently launched Cloudflare workers give you much more programmability by running javascript.

For more traditional options, look at the quiet upstart Stackpath which is built upon the old MaxCDN network, and also CDN77 which is great value.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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Does wasabi support static web hosting?

Not sure myself, but a quick look in their support area comes up with (below) which seems like it might answer your question. https://wasabi-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/1150014...

from their FAQ: Wasabi’s hot cloud storage service is not designed to be used to serve up (for example) web pages at a rate where the downloaded data far exceeds the stored data or any other use case where a small amount of data is served up a large amount of times.

Wasabi it appears is not suitable when content is downloaded is many times, which is the use case for websites.

Re: OVH CEO: Unlike Amazon, Google, “we will never be in competition with you”

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I’ve been a customer of theirs for years. Till now I still have to manually key in my credit card details to renew my servers every few months. So yeh, their CEO’s probably right.

They've recently (within the past couple months) enabled automatic renew for credit cards.
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